The constant Klopp comparisons are getting to him. Understandable on a personal level, but probably not very wise to say out loud (even in that indirect passive aggressive way).
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Iāve totally gone off him. He could say the sky is blue on a sunny day and Iād probably get irritated that heās just opened his mouth.
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Yeah its why I am not that sympathetic to the arguments about there being mitigating factors explaining our failures because that ignores that a big part of the concern with Slot is how poorly he has responded to the set backs. Far too much of it has been defensive and attempts to CYA, which significantly undermines what little effort heās made to protect the players from fire, players for whom the mitigating circumstances are at least as relevant to their performances as they are to Slotās. That sort of leadership is toxic and predicts the bad outcomes weāre seeing.
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Thatās kind of the problem, isnāt it? Everything he says is going to be treated in bad faith, because at this point itās more the messenger than the message.
Iāve found some of the stuff that annoys people quite minor and nothing really to get upset about. But then Iām not as pissed if at him as some of you are.
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Well heās brought it on himself, hasnāt he? A lot of the the things heās said has been ill conceived and heās not learned from that in the slightest hence weāve reached this point. Itās the situation with Rodgers repeating itself.
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As Iāve told you over and over again, this is an awfully disrespectful way to engage with peopleās opinions. Whether you agree with people or not does not make a clearly articulated and specific criticism bad faith or one made reflexively.
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I like the guy and grateful for the part he played in the unbelievable scenes this time last year.
There definitely is an edge that has set in where multiple times he has alluded to us not being good in previous seasons. Itās the opposite to how effusive he was in his gratitude to Jurgen last year. He would always have thanked him for the squad anytime he was being praised.
Maybe just sign of the pressure and abuse (if he looks online) getting to him
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Bah, why are we even discussing? His fate is sealed, and all the nails firmly in his coffin. Like or dislike him, he wonāt survive this summer.
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Heās reasonably upbeat about his prospects. Good for him! Itās not a big deal. If anything, it seems like a confident Dutch sort of viewpoint to hold.
Crucially, itās not up to Arne Slot, so letās see what happens.
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Heās just stated that heās been part of the discussions about the summer tour and the transfer targets. That doesnāt sound like someone who is on his way out.
Unless heās embellishing the truth, or even worse, fabricated the whole thing.
I mean, Slot just doesnāt understand why Klopp was afforded more grace than he is. Itās not just about wins and losses. Itās about performances. Itās about energy, passion, excitement, and a sense of identity. Itās about connecting with the culture of the club and itās supporters.
All of those things were present even during the worst of Kloppās era. Thereās a sense that all of this is being lost now.
And, also, Jurgen never lost 18 matches in a single campaign.
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OMFGā¦
Or maybe he was interviewing from Amsterdam? lol
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Probably 22-23 when we only got Europa League qualification. Pearce and Joyce have also referenced that season as a stick to beat Klopp with.
What he means isā¦
Up Shit Creek like every LFC fan out there if he stays
Bad faith is the wrong choice of phrase on my part. I didnāt mean it in the way you were saying.
What I meant was that I think for a lot of fans at this point are just ready to take a negative view of him, regardless of his words. As @wyld.at.hrt said, at this point if he said the sky was blue he would be annoyed.
Every time I think the tide has turned, the reliable journos all come out and say heās going nowhere.
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Thatās a level of self awareness for my own personal Liverpool journey with Slot at the helm. Not the āaha!ā moment you think it is.
Iām not sure I was suggesting that it was an aha moment. I was just reflecting that for a lot of you itās gone way beyond what he says.
For a lot of fans on some comments, sure. It is why your above it all comments back as early as September that no one should care what he says in public were so misguided because this was always the direction of travel for someone who said questionable things in his public comments and didn;t learn from it.
But beyond that, you use that as your stock response no matter what criticism of his comments are. No matter how well articulated. That is dismissive and disrespectful because there can both be an air of āfuck that guyā at the same time as it being well earned from a serious of bad public appearance that undermine his status of a leader of a group.
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Thatās literally exactly what you just jumped on, letās not assume otherwise