Of course!! He has shown himself to be an outstanding young manager. We also have to ask the question, would he come?
Not just him, but any top target. If (hypothetically) the new ‘target manager’ looks at the squad and thinks - ‘I can’t see any way of getting Wirtz and Isak into a well oiled machine of a team’ then where does that leave us? The club has invested massively and we’re in a position where these new guys have to work out. It’s not impossible to think (again, hypothetically and for the sake of argument) that we could move Isak on in the summer if the new man just couldn’t see a way to make it all click, but for someone like Alonso who is still up and coming in manager years - it would be a risk.
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How far back he was planning this we dont know, but it was definitely a planned statement. As has been said already, Mo made a point as asking the reporters to wait for him while he went in to shower and change and then went back to talk to the press as promised.
Sounds like certain posters on here have been calling in.
If he wanted to get something off his chest before AFCON, the timing after the Leeds game was probably the only ‘headline grabbing’ opportunity he would get, in order to allow enough time for it to resonate before he leaves…
As for the result of the game, it could well be his speech was tailored, be it a win, loss or draw.
One thing he has done for the fanbase… and it might prove to be a case of him falling on his own sword… he has lit the ‘blue touch paper’ for some real ‘in-house’ searching questions to be asked by FSG
We only have Gomez who is made of glass. Also, Virgil (as shit as he has been) is among the least of our problems at the moment. If we had adequate cover then it would likely be Ibou who would be benched - and quite rightly so.
There form has been as bad as ours in the league since we met. They were 4pts ahead and now are behind by 4 and the teams they have played are shit.
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The last three league matches tells us while dropping Salah didn’t make us lose, we only won 1 out of the three with that one win needing a sharp Isak to get us rolling…
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Quick question, @dildoswaggins, when you thought of what username you wanted to use on this forum. Can you unpack the thought process going into it. I am most intrigued.
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I had recently read the Hobbit for the first time in my life, so that name just came to me when I was signing up. Shows how grown up I am at heart don’t you think? Reading the Hobbit at 41 and using the word dildo in a username.
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I love Klopp and his legend is secure. But I’m slightly uncomfortable with the way we (not you, the wider fan base) keep going back to him. As the memory fades a little, he becomes almost perfect, and the current manager Slot pales in comparison. But I don’t think that is accurate.
So, with nothing but love and respect in my heart for Klopp, I want to factually - some may say coldly, state where Klopp’s Liverpool side finished in the Prem, since he won it five years ago.
To get to that title win Klopp had a few years where he built it up, won some battles, grew in his authority, and so on and so forth. Then after winning that title, where did we finish in subsequent seasons?
On the back of that Prem victory in 2019-20 Klopp led us to third, second, fifth, then third.
Then Slot came in and led us to first place in his first season. Brilliant stuff.
Now in his second season we are struggling and there are legitimate issues with Slot. Salah’s unprofessional meltdown is an unwelcome, and significant extra thing he now needs to navigate, in addition to all the other issues piling up this season.
The jury is out on whether or not Slot will be here for the long haul, but if, in a season of transition and now turmoil, as he builds a new side… if he ends up leading us to a CL spot via the league, with clear progression in the second half of the season, I will be more than fine with that.
It is quite possible that Klopp is overestimated in our affections, and Slot underestimated.
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Highly unlikely, slot isn’t competing against the level of competition Jurgen did while here, and I’m not sure we spent as much money in one window as we did for Arne this summer.
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I’m still not cheering on City!
Even if i would like see Alonso here
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It’s got some interesting things to say, but it’s a very odd perspective to air that our defensive improvements didnt come because we dropped Mo, but because in dropping him we put someone else in his role who will do a far better job defending.
This is very much a “guns dont kill people, people do” sort of argument.
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In his last four seasons Klopp finished third, second, fifth and third again. It’s still quite possible that Slot can finish in that sort of range, and see us to CL qualification via the league, even in a season of transition and turmoil.
Yet plenty are sticking the boot in on Slot, and not giving much benefit of the doubt even after winning the title in his one season so far before this one.
In comparison to how they are spoken about by fans, Jurgen, with one league title in his eight years, is seen as almost perfect. Just seems a bit off to me. (Just commenting on the league here, but obviously Klopp won the CL too, which was brilliant).
Don’t get me wrong, the jury is very much out on Slot after this slump, but I do think we are a bit too romantic, on the whole, in going back to Jurgen in our affections.
We’re in a mess. Jurgen will fix it.
I just think that sort of thing is unrealistic.
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Sure. And how much money was available to him for upgrading the squad during those years? What staff were in place to support that recruitment? How many points did he achieve each of those seasons?
City and Arsenal are not looking like sides that post 90+ points. Jurgen’s 5th place finishing side would probably rip this season’s team a new one.
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The only thing that can stop a bad team with a Mo is a good team with a Mo.
That and PSV.
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Your point has merit, for sure. Klopp competed against peak Man City under peak Guardiola. I definitely don’t want to seem like I’m against Jurgen. He was really good for us.
I suppose my point is that think as a fanbase we are perhaps overly romantic about Klopp. Now that we are in a bit of trouble many fans are quick to want him back to help sort us out.
At the same time, in general as a fanbase, Klopp’s successor - who won the Prem on his first go - doesn’t enjoy much of the benefit of the doubt.
Its not romanticism, its fact and degree, and a lot of yearning. Yes Klopp had times when the team performances drifted to a low standard, but never as low as this, and its obvious right now we are rudderless, the manager does not know what to do to right it. That never happened with Klopp. Because he had a strong philosophy he believed in and everyone else bought into. Slot doesnt have this, nor the power of persuasion, is uncharismatic, and the complete wrong choice for a club that just had a dynastic giant as Klopp. Slot is not just a mismatch, he’s completely at the wrong end of the coaching spectrum. This is why we are seeing confusion and dysphoria, or rather as it manifests, a complete loss of mentality.
It isnt right to hark after Klopp returning, its not likely to happen, but what that does demonstrate is to reflect the sentiments I have written above. As a club, we’ve not got over Klopp, and ultimately, Slot isn’t going to get us over that hump.
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With the highs comes the lows, but it isn’t just down to him, we are conceeding too many goals and for me our right side has been the problem and Mo doesn’t work hard enough defensively.
I also think he made a rod for his own back with saying that he has less defensive duties if he performs at the other end of the pitch.