If you truly see all of this, then you’ll also know that my negativity towards Slot has absolutely nothing to do with Mo. He’d already lost me before. It happens. I stand by the fact that I no longer trust him and simply don’t believe he’s the right one for us anymore. That, too, has nothing to do with Mo. I apologize if I was too blunt; I have absolutely no interest in starting a fight here. I already asked before to leave it at that, since we’re not getting along. These things happen. Thank you.
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We’ve no idea those issues are real, from our position it looks like a player unhappy at being dropped from the starting 11. Until we know more there is no basis for an apology being required from the club, and for PR purposes, I doubt we’ll ever see one. There would be a duty to reach out to Salah as an employee to seek to resolve the stand off, but that isnt the same as an apology, and this would be exclusively internal and private.
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Hence why i said what i said.
Aggrieved players are always going on about broken promises, while being very unspecific about what those promises were.
It’s right up there with the ‘one day I will tell my story’ stuff. That never happens either.
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What would need to happen to turn that around?
And that’s fine. This is about moving forward, and that is sometimes easier to do if sides avoid doubling down on the other person moving first. That vagueness probably helps do that by allowing greater wiggle room with the resolution.
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I can’t tell you, and it makes me sad too. I don’t know what the future holds and how things might develop.
Perhaps it’s also a bit personal for me; my rather negative experiences with the stubbornness of the Dutch might also play a role. I can barely bring myself to watch his interviews anymore, which is quite unusual for me, but I just can’t do it.
I highly doubt that his treatment and his coldness towards some of the squad will change, and that would probably be one of the most important things to me, combined with a playing identity that looks more like Liverpool again. Surely some continuity through something that’s actually recognizable as a plan wouldn’t be too much to ask? Sigh.
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Ok, let me rephrase to accommodate your argument.
Mo had no issue with Slot’s man-management, such that he came out with a 7 minute tirade in the mixed zone, before Slot benched him.
Sometimes for the sake of a relationship it is important to apologize even if there isnt anything technically to apologize for. An no, that doesnt mean it is an insincere apology.
What an improved relationship means to the club at this point though is anyone’s guess, but even if they do want him out there is still value in trying to mend fences to make that happen as smoothly as possible.
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Thats grievance procedure, not apology.
Fair enough, all your accumulated previous with Slot colors how you see the Salah situation.
Me too.
And I have no interest in starting a fight either, my interest is more in sticking up for a manager who has been put in an awful position by a self-indulgent player.
But beyond the Salah situation, even as an optimist, I recognize that the jury is out on Slot and he has work to do to stay for the longer term.
Apologies on my part if anything has been tetchy between us over this issue. I do respect you as a poster, and I’m happy to leave it at that.
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Who cares what you call it. @redfanman was talking about why the club may still have an interest in offering an olive branch in the interest of moving forward in the best way possible
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An olive branch isn’t an apology from the club, though. Of course, keep the door open. Invite Mo to talk. Work on communicating better.
But Mo has to apologize, period. There is no moving forward without Mo acknowledging that he was wrong. The club cannot sanction those kinds of tantrums from anyone.
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First and foremost, if he apologizes, he should do it in front of people inside.
It doesn’t have to be public, he didn’t say anything about the fans or media.
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Yeah, I don’t think he has to do it publicly. I think Slot coming out and saying “we’ve talked, he’s apologized, we’re moving forward” would be enough for everyone.
But taking responsibility for your mistakes is a major mark of character and leadership. It would be a good example for his teammates.
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I take it Salah is still getting his £400k this week? Of course he is.
I would disagree with this. Since he selected a public forum for his outburst, the apology should be public too. Mo chose the terms of engagement and put all this in the public domain.
The public apology can be brief, with an accompanying statement to say there will now be a private conversation to work things out, so please respect that process.
If he fails to do that, there is something lacking, in my opinion.
I wouldn’t say so, since we structure our deals, so it’s also performance based.
But I imagine it’s still high.
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Sometimes it does but usually it only comes out years later when the player has long retired, the manager and directors have all moved on, and no one cares anymore. Fowler, Agger and a few others have openly talked about being pushed out or having promises broken, but only long after they’d left.
Right now everyone assumes Mo is simply angry about being dropped, and that the “broken promise” relates to playing time. But the way this summer went, I doubt that’s the real issue. We’ve spent over £300m on young forwards. The far more likely “promise” is that the club convinced him to stay, sign a new deal, and then changed the strategic plan immediately afterwards. Salah even says: “It seems like someone doesn’t want me in the club.”
If the board can bank £100m plus his wages, the books look cleaner. From a financial perspective it makes sense but from Salah’s standpoint it would be a betrayal. He could’ve run his deal down and left for free. Instead he trusted the club and signed a new contract in April.
If the hierarchy persuaded him to extend, with a plan on cashing in (or just bad planning getting Ekitike, Writz and Isak), then yeah that’s a pretty shitty move. Understandable from a business perspective… but still scummy. To be honest I think that’s what’s happened.
However instead of it being phased over a longer period, the club reacted to opportunity of Isak. To quote Salah from the outburst “I thought ‘I’m going to renew here and end my career here”
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Rather than MO posting what is little more than ‘victim’ images of himself, which just continues to stir the pot, would it not be best, if both sides take a small step back to try and take the heat out of the whole situation. At the moment, in what is the aftermath, to me anyway, there seems as though there is only one party acting like an adult in the room… and it is not MO.
If MO is pushing the narrative as it seems, it is little more than picking at the ‘scab’ to move the situation along. With AFCON imminent, does he feel pressure of a looming timeline, is he looking for answers or a conclusion before he departs.. who knows. What is certain, after his outburst, he no longer controls the narrative… LFC are now in full control of that, and they have no reason to show their hand, or the next cards they are going to play. Time is on their side.
MO has the chance of one game before he departs. Maybe best if they sanction an early release before that and get some space and distance for heads to cool… How events unfold now, will be determined by the hierarchy well above the paygrade of AS.
MO has rocked the boat of an FSG company, he has criticised the calibre of one of their appointees, there is no way they will cave-in to the demands of a single player… whatever they might be.
We all know LFC have been playing shit for a while now. The pressure gauge monitoring the performance of AS is steadily, but surely building up. His man-management skill (or lack off), his tactical awareness/ignorance, his non inspirational, non emotional body language, his bland pre-match press meetings, are all now becoming more noticeable the more games we lose. In short, the fans/media are scrutinising everything at the moment.
To me, I want the team playing other teams off the park in every game. Yeah, it would be great if the manager was perfect for the role, but in the grand scheme of things… the team winning with a good style of football is what is important to me. The manager, and his personality traits… well you can’t always get your wish.
I do hope AS proves to be serial winner while he remains at the club. I also hope he learns from this episode and takes a long hard look at himself to see the areas for self improvement…!
It is not the fans that have to put up with him on a daily basis, but we do have to put up with watching the standard of football he is capable of producing. As a fan, if we are winning everything before us, who cares if we have Arne Slot in charge, Arne Blot or Arne Clot… Just bring the silverware back to Anfield and give us footballing nights that last a lifetime :0)
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