I heard some on the tv…but sometimes the pitch microphones pick crowd noise in specific areas…areas of Anfield may not have heard it…
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I don’t know. I’m not trying to argue it’s an aberration. I’m saying that the decision makers at the club might see it that way.
Where do you get the running stats because everytime I search, none of the normal sights show them?
But we can go round and round the houses arguing about what would have happened in the parallel universes we don’t live in. What if we could have got Xabi instead of Slot? Maybe we still win the league? Maybe we win the European cup as well. Or maybe we win absolutely fuck all. Maybe we’re sat here now saying Xabi has had a fair crack, it’s time for a change and that bloke at Feyenoord looks interesting.
We can know nothing of the paths not taken. It’s fun to speculate, but assertions like ‘any decent coach would have won the league with us’ (which is the comment I originally replied to) is just a fucking ridiculous statement make.
The only thing we can say for sure is that the club appointed Arne Slot, and he won the bloody league.
And we’ve been shit ever since.
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There was loads of booing at the end, certainly more than the last time it happened.
The whole situation is a joke now. That result today was fucking pathetic. It’s on a par with Hodgson but he only got 5 months. We’ve been shit for 12 months under Slot.
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Ah but Hodgson hit the ground running on being shit.
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It’s objectively clear that Slot does not have what it takes to lead this side to success. Perhaps he did with last season’s squad for the first 6 months of the season by not tweaking too much, but he has proven this season that he’s not the man for the job. The players of course have a role to play, but you have to be a piss poor manager to not get something more out of the quality players at his disposal.
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But these arguments are not considered in a vacuum. We have almost a year of performances which range from mediocre to disgustingly poor to consider. And while Slot took over a competitive Klopp side and we won a title, the further we move from it, the more it looks like that title was earned on the back of the structure Klopp left in place rather than because of Slot’s own personal genius.
I’ve never understood why it is offensive to consider the possibility that Slot benefitted considerably from a structure that Klopp left in place. Klopp was a remarkably great manager in so many ways, some of which have only become more clearly evident since his departure. And Slot would have been foolish to tear that all down in the chance of a club matching his identity, especially without any transfer spend in his first summer here.
So this isn’t a simple matter of considering the path not taken. This is evaluating the path we are currently on and using that data to consider the best path forward. And part of that is reconsidering any prior positions we may have had as to whether Arne Slot is indeed the manager to take this club forward.
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Next time, the club should hire a high-status coach with năm recognition and proper track records at Europe’s biggest leagues. For example, Alonso, Ancelotti, Nagelsmann, Enrique. Stop hiring rando coaches.
Both Benitez and Klopp won league titles at top 4-5 leagues before joining us.
Mascot still on a one man mission to fend off all the Slot critics and doubters I see, dude give over, the fight is lost.
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I believe qualifying for the UCL would bring its own bonuses, right?
Fixed it for you
Looking at the stamina that the players have this season, it seems that the team only do football rondos in pre-season all day long rather than long hard running…
and my theory of a pre-season lacking in proper physical conditioning rings louder with every passing match…
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We used to be the fastest and most intensive team in Europe not long ago, we used to topped the chart in running stats. Now we have become one of the slowest and laziest teams out there.
Thanks Slot.
It’s not just bad results against good sides, either. We’ve suffered some of the most embarrassing results in recent club history this past year. Losing to 20th placed Wolves. Losing to a relegation-threatened Forest 3-0 at home. Losing to a bad PSV team 4-1 at home. Drawing to the worst Spurs team in decades at home. Draws against a relegation-threatened Leeds team and Burnley, again at home.
It’s maddening.
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That really fucking bugged me too. Too clever by half.
We went from that
to that
in one year
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Apparently, there were returned tickets available before the game, which has been unheard of for the last 9 years. And that was before we dropped points to the team with the worst run of form in the PL.
If Anfield is voting with its feet, the end is near.
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I think in time he will be viewed similar to Claudio Ranieri. No bad manager wins the Premier League. However it’s recognised that the stars somewhat aligned to lead to their success.
Klopp in many ways was deeply unlucky. Near-perfection levels of performance, and deserved far more trophies than he achieved.
When Slot came in, we didn’t become a better team. We continued what was already there. The squad, intensity and mentality had been built over years.
The good fortune was that both City and Arsenal underperformed. We won the league with the lowest points total since Leicester a decade earlier.
My take is that in his first season Slot initially handled it well. He was fairly humble, recognised it was a big step up, and didn’t change too much which was smart. But as time went on he bought into his own hype. He started shifting away from the existing philosophy, moving away from the things that had made the side so effective under Klopp.
And for me, that was the beginning of the decline. The warning signs were there when he started trying to “improve” a system that had already been proven at the highest level. Instead of evolution, it became unnecessary change. What followed wasn’t bad luck it was the slow erosion of the foundations that had made the team elite.
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