Wasnt there an absurd stat that he’d never lost 2 games in a row before this season? That lack of having come through adversity was one of the concerns that was being raised when people were getting carried away last season - managing through a difficult spell is very different than he experienced last season and requires different things from you. Just because he’d had a great first season didn’t mean he had those tools, or even that he’d recognize the need to do things a bit differently once he hit some difficulty. That concern was the basis for the raised eye brows to some of his early season public comments earlier in the season before the wheels had fallen off but far enough in that we’d seen enough to know things weren’t quite right.
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Thanks for your answer. Yeah, same for me. I’ve lost the trust in his ability to steer us out of trouble to be honest. And I believe that if he stays, we’ll see similar problems popping up next season.
Maybe the players, when they come back next summer, will need a fresh start as well after this difficult season, and in that respect, a change at head coach level might be what they need to get going again.
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Redmen TV and the TAW turning against him means either the cheques have bounced or its a new narrative starting from the powers that be.
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Think that’s unfair. TAW try to be balanced rather than reactive, which is why I like listening to them. I think the last couple of weeks have been a tipping point for a lot of people
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Redmen TV Live stream - Are the Boos the beginning of the end for Slot
https://www.youtube.com/live/LK96BQfTqkc?is=IMRCBWMGYJpwpHkv
Redmen TV has long been reluctant to publicly criticize Slot and has always tried to take a “cautious diplomatic” approach, probably also to avoid losing access to the Club Press; this now appears to have changed.
Pray, what is “the average emotional standard that the average human does”? Who created this standard and where is it published?
What is the scientific evidence that proves conclusively that it apples to every human on earth?
I await your answer…
Your comment is the exact reason why many people who have mental health issues often go undiagnosed.
Because there is always a Nobluff on the internet telling them they are simply making excuses…
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Great post.
And the thing for me is that it is possible to discuss the AS issue, from both sides, without calling him names.
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And more importantly what that voice is saying.
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Jotas death was horrible, but I think it played a minor role in what we see today.
His best friends were Diaz, Kelleher and Becker. Two of which moved clubs and have had excellent seasons.
More importantly, if grief were the driving force, you’d expect an immediate impact. We however started the season with 7 wins in a row.
There are real, structural reasons for this slump lack of balance, tactical inconsistency, squad fitness, use of favourites, defensive lapses at key moments, failure to hold leads (especially last 10 minutes) . Those deserve honest analysis. Using Jota’s death as the explanation lets the people responsible off the hook, and frankly, I don’t think Jota himself would want that legacy.
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Been there doing that for a while so try not to be such a drama queen. If you think 9 months is not enough time to recover from someone dying, and you think it’s appropriate to keep using it as a crutch, well then you have bigger problems that can be solved through this thread.
Morn, feel sad, do whatever you want, other than use it to explain or justify how it’s an excuse for how things are going tits up. It’s incredibly disrespectful to use a tragedy in this manner.
And just incase you have a chip on your shoulder, and I suspect you do, I’m not specifically pointing to you, this goes to everyone suggesting that this season is going to shit because of Jota’s death.
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He was very close to Diogo and has had a very impressive season so he has overcome his grief.
Although not at Liverpool, maybe certain players don’t have the same make up as Kelleher and differ in their ability to overcome their grief. Also, what the club and us are doing to remember Diogo brings back the grief.
As I have said I may be different from most but I would think that the way some on performing on the pitch and the lack of desire and fight aren’t representing who Diogo was, he had fight, effort and desire.
I would be using my memory of Diogo to drive me on and to perform better, to fight harder and to drive the desire to succeed.
That is me and it is hard to see why others don’t, look at Robbo with Scotland he remembered Diogo before that pivotal game and used it positively.
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Remember Jurgens 1st game, the effort from the players went up 3 notches!
If someone wants it enough it can happen.
I’ve often wondered why Diaz was so desperate to leave despite been offered a new contract offers on 2 occasions,
did you not like what he was seen with Slot?
did he foresee the shit show that was about to happen?
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I lost a very good friend and work colleague in our gym, whilst playing indoor footy and due to a massive heart attack.
I/we provided CPR for 30 minutes, until ambulances arrived and continued whilst the tried defib, nothing I/we could have done, had a lot of grief initially always wondering what I could would of done more to save him and felt guilty that I hadn’t.
Luckily when attending the funeral the family sort me out and presumably others and thanked me as they heard from others about the effort we had put in to save him, this gave me closure.
I was back at work after a couple of days, before the funeral and working as diligently as ever, why? Because that is what he would have done and expected of me!
I wasn’t the only one all staff did the same.
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Yeah, seen Millie,many a time pull one of ours to his feet
It’s had some impact no doubt and people cope differently so to use examples I don’t think is the best idea. It really doesn’t explain why they all look exhausted and can’t be arsed to attack for 70 minutes.
All situations can be true
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Hard to conclusively say what Jota death has had as consequences, but those simply saying “death of a collegue” are ignoring the scale of the public reaction.
In term of death, it’s closer to Diana, than Roger from the accounting department. Whether we like it or not, everything has been magnified thousandfold.
This is not helping in bringing closure, and I find it wrong to dismiss it.
As to what Jota would have wanted, it’s definitely not for any of us to speculate.
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I’m sure his wife and kids are more than happy for a stranger on the internet to put a timeline on their grief.
Maybe we just all stop trying to gauge what impact the Jota incident has had on people. We have no clue and never will. And it’s probably not the same for every person either. All we can be certain of is that it will have had an effect on everyone at the club in some way.
It’s quite unedifying seeing his name bandied around in an thread that has pretty much been reduced to to discussing when the manager should have got the sack or if we’ll now hang on until the summer.
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bang out of order this…
no one referenced the family or kids. and that shouldnt need to be clarified on a football forum.
Leave them out.
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