I know it probably doesnât add up and I am 42 the memory is going however I am pretty sure if Houllier had taken the season off after his heart attack then Phil would have taken us to the title.
I donât think poor Gerard was ever the same after that.
With that beautiful summer of 2002 and the transfers weâve made, I donât think anyone wouldâve won the title with that.
Thommo is a football man through and through⊠whether he had the temperament in his younger days to think things through regarding tactics or players before blowing his top and losing the plot completely, is something we will never know.
He was that ordinary fan, like me and you, that went on to play for his beloved club⊠and to this day, that love of LFC remains, as it oozes out of every pore of his body, and every word that comes out of his mouth.
Jimmy Case really was a thug at timesâŠ
Before last nights Everton game all the ex manure players now pundits piled in on Liverpool woos and after the game what an ostrich size egg on their faces!
Then Bob Paisley saw Graeme Souness put him on the ground and thought, âHeâll do for meâ.
All teams are on 18pts this is after a collapse even worse than one we saw under Klopp in 20/21. This is on the back of being Premier League champions.
The teams fan bases can crow but hell I would be embarrassed that we were level if I was eithier club.
Can we get Kelleher back please?
I could listen to him all day. What a great player and man. 
I hope we have a buy-back clause or first refusal clause or something. When Ali hangs up his gloves we need a world class keeper to replace him. Mama may or may not become that, but currently he looks very average to me. Early days I know, but we canât judge him on future potential only on what heâs done for us. Hasnât been Karius bad, but also hasnât looked top draw either.
Iâm giving him something of a free pass at the moment given the shitshow unfolding in front of him.
Since Iâve been watching us, the only keepers I really rated were Clemence, Reina and Ali. Kelleher is slightly below them, but probably as good as any other we have had in that time. I donât remember Tommy Lawrence playing for us (or Elisha Scott for that matter) but we have had a few duffers and several journeymen made to look better than they were by the quality of defenders in front of them.
Top keepers have always been somewhat undervalued.
Reina better than KelleherâŠbehave! Reina is the most overrated (only by our fans) keeper weâve ever had. Constantly flapping at crosses, making stupid mistakes and failing to save a good amount of shots for most of the time he was here. Donât get me wrong he wasnât shit as he did perform well for a season or 2 as I recall, but I never got the hype around him at the time and still donât get it. The West Ham final sums him up perfectly - almost threw the match away for us with stupid mistake(s), but Stevie G bailed him out - then he saved a penalty or 2 and ended up looking like a hero.
Anyway, sorry - just my honest opinion (which I think is still ok to give these days?)
First keeper I saw was a young David James, Grobbs was just before my time.
I do take your point about Mama though to be fair - you are right that he hasnât exactly had ideal conditions to make a debut season at one of the best and biggest clubs in world football!! Itâs a bit harsh to talk too negatively about him perhaps given the shitshow unfolding in front of him.
Not by me. Ali and Kelleher are the only 2 in my time watching us that I can say fill me with confidence. Doesnât mean they donât make errors, but Kelleher is miles above any other keeper (excluding Ali) that we have had since the 90âs.
Considering his deal, we didnât have much negotiation power to have all these options. We had a quality backup keeper for a few years and then it was time for him to move on. Got the best price we could and thatâs it.
Totally disagree, massive discredit to Reina.
If he was such, he wouldnât have been here for so long. You cannot hide in that position (or any, for so long).
Reina also won the golden gloves award 3 seasons in a row for the most clean sheets.
cant be that bad a goalkeeper
I didnât say or mean he was a bad keeper - but he was miles away from being world class as many of our fans claimed, and continue to do to this day.
I think he was really, really poor on crosses, a good shot stopper for a couple of years - then didnât even bother diving for most shots after a while let alone save anything, world class at distribution and a massive character throughout his time here. I think he was decent and an upgrade on most of the shit keepers weâve had here in the last 30 odd years, but nothing more in my opinion and I stongly believe Kelleher was way ahead of him in every department except distribution - which funnily enough doesnât/didnât get mentioned enough when discussing Pepe.
Thatâs fair enough, although what you describe reminds me more of Grobbelaar. He wasnât a bad keeper as such, but he benefitted from having some exceptional defenders in front of him without the back-pass rule to worry about (although in fairness he wasnât bad with his feet).
He was good enough at the time because we had an exceptional team, but I would have swapped him with Neville Southall every day of the week.
I do wonder whether Kelleher would be tempted at a return when Ali leaves. The problem is that it is difficult enough to secure one top class keeper, let alone two.
âNot bad but miles away from world classâ, whatâs that then? Average or below average?