I don’t agree, it’s very easy to make a few mistakes and go into free fall.
Our medical set up is a car crash, our recruitment seems all at sea.
Have you missed 2 DOFs leaving within 12 months and our head of analytics? That’s not a well run club.
That’s fair enough. I think the motivation comes from multiple sources, chiefly from within the individual, but then also from the general group/project and leader.
At that point there is a sense that a cycle is coming to an end, and motivation is lower than before, and Jurgen has some culpability. I think that’s fair enough.
My hope is a new thing is on the way. I could be too optimistic, but I think the new team has been getting built at the same time as the other one was coming to an end. I don’t necessarily mean eleven new players, as there will be some overlap, but the new team is emerging, and the next key component is the midfield.
Sort the engine room out and I think a breath of fresh will blow through the club again, and Jurgen will have his tail up, and so will the rest of them.
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I see the general point. We should scout well and shop well, and coach well. All that will go a long way, and it doesn’t JUST boil down to money. However, even taking into account what you are saying, we DO need a decent wedge to be spent on the team now, if we want to compete at the top.
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Full credit to them. They seem a well run outfit, riding high.
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Their riding high is not even as good as our piss poor season. We just exited the last 16 of the Champions League. I look forward to Brighton getting in to see if they walk through the group stage only to fall to the champions in the first knockout round. And limiting the observation to the league, our terrible season has us currently about the same level as their amazing season. I suspect we will still finish higher than them even when we’ve been at our worst.
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We are comparing their ‘highlight reel’ with our ‘behind the scenes.’ When we think of Brighton we think Caicedo, Mitoma, MacAllister. We think well run club. Etc. When we think of Liverpool right now, we all know too much about what is wrong with us, because Liverpool is our passion, our specialist subject!
The deeper truth on Brighton is that they have spent quite a lot of money and bought a large quantity of players. The hits they have had have helped them to sustain and cover all the misses.
(I don’t have the list but @Sweeting is very knowledgeable on this forum and I seem to remember he posted an excellent piece on this.)
Brighton have done very well and I am certainly not knocking them.
But we are not Brighton. The club is different. The scale is different. The expectations are different. The level is different. Etc.
At their best they can get close to our worst though, so there is something to be said for good coaching, good scouting and unearthing a few good players. That has to be part of the solution for us moving forward, but I think if we want to compete at the top again, we will have to shop at all levels of the market, as before.
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I’m not burying my head in the sand. Never said everything was hunky dory. Never said nothing needs doing and it’ll right itself.
Your style of conversation is to use extremes. It’s not always night or day, black or white. The problem can llie somewhere in between.
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Klopp’s had a terrible season to be honest, tactically we have been laughably bad.
Still back him to improve us next season but I don’t see many mitigating arguments for Klopp this year, he’s had a shocker.
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He’s certainly part of it.
We can’t give him so much credit when things are going well (even if, yes, he is massive for us) and then not give him certain criticism when things are going bad.
I’m willing to give the whole club a chance to repare their mistakes this summer. Klopp and the coaching staff, the players, but also (new) directors and medical department (which could have at least one new member).
They have credit in the bank to have another go, but I hope they do realize this good season - bad season - good season isn’t really sustainable. Especially with injuries.
A bit more than 3 years left on his deal, both parties will want that the team is doing well enough for us to be together for most probably those final 3 years.
Massive pre-season ahead of us, one of the most important ones in a while. Not only in the transfer market, but on the training pitch also. Also, recruiting new key members off the pitch.
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From chasing a quadruple to being compared unfavourably to Brighton.
Wow. Just fucking wow.
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Yup, and he’s dead right too
What’s not black and white? Anger isn’t a bad thing, it comes from passion lad, I’d rather I was passionate about our club than a robot.
We’re out of all competitions and about to miss out on Champions League football.
That is an amazing colossal fucking failure for us.
The good news is Klopp who has been a big part of the problem is also the prime architech of the solution.
I’m not as confident we’ll miss out on CL as you seem to be. We’re not favourites for top 4 by any stretch of the imagination but we’re what, 6 points behind the spuds in 4th?
The immediate fixtures after the international break will be revealing though.
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Yep we’ve got a tough run coming up, City, Chelsea, Arsenal.
I’ve not given up on anything but this season we’ve been terrible.
Ahh Didi, what oh what are we gonna do with you ey?
Honestly what is his fucking problem?
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Hasn’t been able to stop talking about Klopp this season, must be something personal between the 2 that stems back from before we don’t know about.
Can’t remember which presser it was in but remember Klopp’s “What pundit said that? Was it Didi? Oh great” or something like that. 
He’s always been a Bayern player in his head and seems to have carried over scorn from Klopp’s ability to beat them
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Didi Hamann was a good player for us. Never a great, but he was a good midfielder. We could have used him this season.
As for what he has done since hanging up his boots, the less said the better.
He seems to have a vendetta against Klopp which is unseemly. If Jürgen stole his girlfriend back in the day in Germany, fair enough.
But apart from that, shut yer trap Didi!
You come across as bitter.
Seems like a bit of a lush to me… spouts stuff when full of bravado
How does that line in the song go…
" …and the Johnnie Walker wisdom running high"
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I liked Didi very much when he played for us (still remember how he took a pen with a broken foot in that 2005 final), but since then, he certainly hasn’t behaved like a former Liverpool player, rather like an unwitting, humourless, depressive, stupid drunkard.
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This is the one.
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Certainly is & he couldn’t be more right with what he said at the end there. Loved how he calmly, so elegantly put the journo in his place.
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