Liverpool Fans, What Are Our Limits?

:musical_note: Mo Salah
:musical_note: Mo Salah
:musical_note: Running by the Tyne… Salahhhh

Just doesn’t sound right…
Danger is though…
These Newcastle owners may want to sweep up the 11 best players on the planet straight away…!
Just hope, in making matters worse, sour face Mourinho doesn’t get another chance to become a manager again in the premiership…!

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They can want the best 11 straight away but they can’t just drop a billion quid on players. It will take then a while.

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I don’t think I could ever stop supporting Liverpool. No matter what happens on the pitch, no matter who owns the club.

I associate the club with its history and Anfield, Shankly, Paisley, the Boot Room and Klopp, Dalglish and Gerrard; YNWA, the Kop and the fanbase. The ideas of community and of common cause. The owners don’t come into it.

If it happened, I would absolutely hate to see it, but walking away? I don’t think I have it in me.

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I’ll be honest: I’m glad that we dodged the bullet of being taken over by Saudi Arabia. Unfortunately, there are other corrupt regimes who will want to practice sports-washing.

If that happens and the club becomes the showcase for a morally corrupt regime, I’ll walk away. Because it would mean that everything I love the club for would become tainted with something I can’t accept.

If a morally corrupt person (like Abramovic for instance) comes onto the scene, then it’s a bit more complicated. A person isn’t a state. You don’t need to identify with that person. So, I think it would be possible for me to still identify with LFC, even if I know that a morally corrupt person owns it. After all, I stayed a fan throughout g+h’s time.

The limit for me is if the club becomes effectively owned by a state, like Cheaty, PSG and now Newcastle are. That will be the end of the road for me, most definitely.

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I gotta say I don’t know anything about this lot who have just taken over at Newxastle

Can somebody explain to me what the deal is with them? I don’t really have any interest in reading articles and articles on them, can somebody just give me a general overview?

  1. Regressive Stone Age mindset
  2. Responsible for propagating and funding islamic terrorism with both money as well as ideology (ISIS and al-qaida’s ideology is essentially shaped by Saudi’s wahabbi brand of islam
  3. Killing dissenters
  4. Have loads of oil, hence they are USA’s best friend
  5. Women don’t have a voice there

To start with.

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Nah, Fuck them. Them and their mental gymnasts as to how they’ll be supporting a morally bankrupt regime’s effort at whitewashing their crimes against humanity.

And some Liverpool fans might have wished for DIC to take over during the days of H&G. There’s a difference between DIC/City’s owners and MBS. Liverpool were under threat of administration, Newcastle aren’t. Yes, Ashley is a cunt… But even at Liverpool’s worst , you never had sane Liverpool fans wishing for the wealth of a morally bankrupt leader of a country.

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It’s what happens on the pitch that really is most important to me.
I’ve seen L’OM have some real gogshites as owners and on the field very variable teams, Tapie put together a great team, under Bielsa things looked good big slumps and now reasonable on the pitch again.
PSG were a real bunch of shitheads on the pitch, Quatar came in and under Leonardo they really improved on the pitch, then all the really silly stuff started. Now it’s some superstars up front (even so the footy isn’t bad particularly to what I remeber).

We’re in a different place (but have had our share of gobshite owners). FSG have been reasonable and with Klopp we have close to, if not, a top team and very good squad. If we continue playing good footy and don’t go all PSG I’ll be fine with it I think. Of course on here I will probably join the condamnation of our gobshite owners if they come however as it stands it’s very hard to see ‘us’ going really silly (we just shouldn’t need to looking at the position we are in). I just can not see myself give up on a life long passion!

The corrupt match-fixer? Yeah, well done him!

To play devil’s advocate, what if the wealth fund of Sweden or Denmark bought us? We’d then be owned by a state?

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That won’t happen, because these democratic states use their funds in order to help their citizens, not in order to practice sports-washing.

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PIL (the company purchasing the club) are the commercial wing of the Saudi Arabian government. The Saudi Arabian government still beheads its own citizens, murders anyone who criticises them (notably Jamaal Khashogghi), forces slave labour, financial supports - if not more directly involved with - terrorism against “the West” and treats women as less than second class citizens.

There is actually a lot more to be said for the heinous crimes of the Saudi government but that should be enough to start with.

The Premier League gave a single sentence quote to say that PIL have promised that there will be no involvement from the Saudi government. It is total nonsense, PIL is the Saudi government. A complete abdication of responsibility by the Premier League.

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PIL giving those legally binding undertakings
Music Video 80S GIF

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I hate to say it, but it’s a combination of a lot of factors. The corruption of the governing bodies, the concentration of power into a few clubs, the lack of competition, the financial insanity, the disregard for supporters and, yes, the nastiness of the owners, are all factors that are turning me away from the game in general, and Liverpool by default.
I’ve supported the club for more than 50 years, so I’m not giving up overnight, but the more that football goes in the direction it’s going, the less interest I’ll have. It’s sad.

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To Be brutally honest, i have less and less affiliation with the premier league as the years roll on, i remember actually not giving a fuck towards Rodgers last years…not, against rodgers, or for rodgers, but actually not giving a fuck.

i distinctly remember playing UTD, away, probably Rodgers last UTD away fixture at a guess, and i remember literally not caring if we won, football had no joy anymore, it all seemed about whether it was rodgers who signed the lad, whether our net spend was competitive, or some other insignificance.

it took Klopp and what he does for me to fall in love again, find the roots of the club again.

i think if some despotic regime bought this club one of two things would happen;

1.Klopp would walk when his contract run down and id slowly fall out of love with the club again
2. Klopp would sign an extention, pretend hes ‘cool’ working for the owners and id slowly fall out of love with Klopp AND the club again.

if it happened, id want to take the blue pill (option 1)

years ago in my 20s i would have stucck around through some kind of bravado and ignorance so the ‘youd have accepted the DIC’ line holds no water with me…im a changed man now…id walk

id watch the results, but the love wouldnt be there.

it could come back (my love) if the ownership situation changed back, but i reckon the game would have to break for that to happen

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I’d probably be the same.

The PL is running out of time to do something meaningful here. Ultimately it can only be resolved through government intervention.

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Socialist!

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Interesting that Amanda Stavely is on board with this then.

You’d think they’d be reluctant to work with a woman and vice versa

LOL.

Money>religious ideal.

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