Money, Investments and the Economy

As I said, with respect to these kind of plays:

As the immortal line goes: Be first; be better or cheat. In this case, being first is really the only option open to normal folk. Don’t get caught jumping aboard this stuff too late…

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This should be as illegal and blatant as murder in broad daylight…it’s shocking that there hasn’t been more uproar about it to be honest.

Interesting thread on gamestop interest.

There has already been a class action lawsuit started in NY if reddit is to be believed. If so, then I can see others starting elsware as these shutdowns were worldwide, so could well be a lot of lawsuits all over the world

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I learned yesterday about the story of Piggly Wiggly…

I’m not familiar with it. What happened?

I think it was back in the 1920’s short sellers spread false rumours about the health of the company to drive down the price. The founder/owner, Clarence Sanders, borrowed as much money as he could to buy as many of the shares as he could in order to force short sellers to come to him and buy at much higher prices to close their positions as rules at the time were much more restrictive as to how long you could hold a position for. His plan initially seemed to work but then the financial authorities abruptly changed the rules in favour of the short sellers, and he eventually went bankrupt because of it. Can’t remember now where I read about it but will post the link to the article when I do.

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Not surprising that Musk would have such encouragement for a movement that punishes stock shorting.

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It’s a bubble, isn’t it? I wonder when it will pop.

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I think it is a bubble - particularly when you see how big the valuation jumped over the last 12 months but I don’t profess to understand these sorts of businesses and valuations. I do read articles by people like Christopher Bloomstran who appear to be, and are very critical of these valuations.

As for popping, part of the issue Musk has with Short Sellers is because a few high profile names have over the last couple of years spoken out publically about taking short positions on Tesla. I think also that because it doesnt usually generate surplus cash, it has relied on getting external funding to keep investing - that is harder to do when the share price takes a dive.

There are probably too many people tied into TESLA, believing the story that it will be revolutionary (or dominant in key markets) to give a clear idea as to when it might pop.

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Interesting that he thinks Bill Gates is shorting his stock…

I don’t think he really thinks that, it’s probably just the way he attacks people. His phrasing of it is similar to how Trump would say things.

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Brussels squares up to UK in fight over euro swaps clearing

EU is increasingly worried about London’s dominance over the €81tn industry

Philip Stafford in London and Jim Brunsden in Brussels

The EU is gearing up for a campaign to seize greater control of one of the City of London’s most prized assets: its dominance over the clearing of €81tn worth of derivatives contracts that are vital for global businesses.

François Hollande fired the starting gun less than a week after the UK’s shock decision in June 2016 to leave the EU, with the French president at the time warning “the City, which thanks to the EU, was able to handle clearing operations for the eurozone, will not be able to do them”.

Five years later, the UK still controls 90 per cent of euro swaps clearing, an issue that is causing increasing angst in Brussels and across EU capitals as Britain’s financial regulations begin diverging from those in the bloc.

“We are facing a reality — the current concentration is clearly unsustainable,” a senior EU official told the FT.

Swaps are widely used by companies to protect themselves against unfavourable changes in interest rates. Brexit has also reshaped trading of euro swaps, pushing it out of the UK capital to EU cities like Paris and Amsterdam as well as across the Atlantic to Wall Street.

But London Stock Exchange Group’s LCH and ICE Clear Europe, both UK-based, have managed to hold a firm grip on clearing — a vital role in which they stand between buyers and sellers, preventing defaults from causing a chain reaction that could destabilise the broader market.

Brussels insists its primary concern relates to financial stability — that the EU cannot leave itself dependent on UK supervisors to make the right choices for Europe in a clearing house crisis.

However, national diplomats acknowledge that the issue plays into the bloc’s broader quest for strategic autonomy. Financial centres such as Paris are also keen to snatch the lucrative business away from London.

Mairead McGuinness, the EU’s financial services commissioner, said earlier this month the volumes being cleared in the City were “eye-watering” and indicated she was prepared to act if the industry did not shift activities on to the continent voluntarily.

The financial industry as a whole, however, has shown little appetite to make a substantial move across the English channel. Investment banks argue clearing is a global market and it is its clients’ choice to use London. By keeping the business in one place, they argue, banks and asset managers can consolidate all of their positions and save large sums on the amount they need to post as insurance on their trades.

Many market participants also see the UK legal system that underpins the contracts as flexible and commercially-favourable. Claims by the EU that it is too risky to allow UK authorities another currency are treated sceptically because US authorities defer primary regulation of dollar derivatives clearing to London.

“The EU wants to do this for commercial reasons, but is trying to find a way to do it through non-commercial reasons,” said a senior executive at an investment bank based in London.

As it tries to persuade the market to move, the EU has handed greater powers to the European Securities and Markets Authority, a Paris-based agency, to supervise non-EU clearing houses.

The new measures also task Esma and the European Central Bank with assessing whether clearing houses should have to shift activities within the EU to serve European customers. Such assessments for London venues are already under way.

Privately, some within the EU argue even enhanced supervisory co-operation with London would not be enough to calm concerns about the current level of reliance. The relationship with the UK should be one of “interconnectedness, not mutual dependence” when it comes to clearing, said the senior EU official.

Over the past month EU financial services officials have held two closed-door meetings with investment banks and asset managers to look at how to move thousands of open contracts without creating market instability. The sessions are part of the work of an expert group that will report its findings to McGuinness by this summer.

The meetings have mainly revealed familiar faultlines. “The banks and assets managers were of the same view that you can’t force it to move from the UK to Europe,” said one person who took part in the meetings. “The [European] Commission has realised how difficult it is to do this,” said another.

Brussels argues exposure of euro denominated derivatives to London is “excessive” but bankers say authorities have given no guidance on what level would be acceptable. EU policymakers say the industry’s arguments often boil down to concerns about extra costs, and that a price cannot be placed on financial stability.

A temporary legal permit Brussels granted to give EU banks access to UK clearing houses is set to expire in June 2022.

The EU took the step after the Bank of England and ECB warned of a threat to financial stability if access were suddenly cut off because of Brexit — something pointed to by Brussels as further evidence of the need to reduce reliance on London

Should the EU simply let the permit lapse, it could still leave up to three-quarters of the market in London, Andrew Bailey, governor of the Bank of England, has said. That is largely because most business is held by non-EU customers, who would be free to use LCH.

The LSE estimates that only six per cent of euro-denominated swaps at LCH come from EU users. Even Japan, where it is mandatory for domestic banks to clear yen swaps in Tokyo, accepts half of its market is in London.

Nonetheless, one bank executive in London summed up the industries’ fears about the EU’s intentions: “Forced relocation is the long-term goal.”

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Evening all, I have posted a few times in the past regarding Cryptocurrency. There was a thread regarding this but I can not locate it.
From reading up on it, i understand it has a history of being volatile but recently has become more aligned to Golds movement.
I invested in Bitcoin/Etherum at its highpoint in 2018 (i think) It dropped quite a bit but had already accepted my investment as written off and stayed with it. It is now sitting a lot prettier although not life changing.
My portfolio consists of BTC, Etherum, Ripple, Bitcoin Cash and Cardano. Any thoughts/opinions on getting the best out of these would be appreciated :+1:t2:

I think I responded to the original post basically saying I wouldn’t touch bitcoin. That is still my position.

I admit I dont understand it. What little I do know though about it makes me wonder why anyone else would want to own it?

It’s too volatile to be useful as a medium of exchange, and It has no intrinsic value.

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Bit of a 101 question. Isn’t all offshore banks inherently meant for illegal transactions?