I thought I was replying to Sithbare. Sorry, my sausage fingers are to blame.
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Ou I have those as well, and a keyboard that slips around as Cynicaloldgit likes to keep pointing out. 
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Not that ridiculous actuallyā¦
Carragher was never asked to play in a high line like Phillips was.
If he had of been, Carragher would have looked a lot more clumsy and inept with speedy forwards running at himā¦
Carragher was a bit like Mamadou Sakhoā¦ He was a defender, full stop, who was asked to defend, full stop.
Phillips is a defender, full stop, who is asked to break forward with the ball at his feet, or send 60m long balls to the toes of his lightning fast forwards.
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This is getting more rediculous by the minute, comparing Carra and Sakho ā¦ 
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Yeah Iām not getting drawn into this debate. You saw my starting point. I said it was ridiculous to compare both players. Thereās no way anybody will get me to meet them in the middle.
This Carra hoofball narrative is a nonsense as well.
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Carragher was a much better footballer than Phillips.
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Sell him if we get a offer over 10m.
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Of the 3 Sakho was a fine footballer who played in a high line! Caragher is underappreciated as a footballer too. Meanwhile the Philips hype train is in overdrive and way out of control. Some people seem to really believe the Bolton Baresi line.
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in a time when the club really needed someone to step up and run the back line, Phillips did it. Had to work with some young players like Rhys and Kabak, somehow managed to pull it together enough to secure a CL spot when we would have bitten off our left thumb to get to 4th.
Anyone who thinks heās not good enough to rotate into CB after watching the matches from Apr to May and how that team pulled together, needs to give their heads a shakeā¦IMO
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Wasnāt Flanagan compared to Cafu.
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We had better players in our 05 CL winning squad that people still list as reasons we shouldnāt have won it.
And he never ran the back line.
Yep and Spearing was better than Lucas when he broke onto the scene.
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Youāre really comparing a 5th choice CB brought up from the U23 squad to prop up a decimated CB position, to the 2005 CL squad? Wow.
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OK with this bit;
āAnyone who thinks heās not good enough to rotate into CB after watching the matches from Apr to May and how that team pulled together, needs to give their heads a shakeā¦IMOā
You make it sound like itād be stupid to get rid of him. But the squad in 05 pulled together and saw it over the line in a much more important way but it didnāt stop us moving on the majority of that side very quickly because they just werenāt good enough.
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Nobody is saying he couldnāt do a job. So give yer own head a shake.
Whatās being said is heās no way as near as good a footballer/defender as Carragher.
And I believe if he plays as much next season in league matches as this season, we will not win the league.
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This is not a slight on Nat. Heās got a top class attitude, did his absolute best for us and seems a really decent guy.
Itās just about his footballing ability, which for our level is not good enough.
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and I said he can ROTATE INTO CB. Heās not a starter. But not a single one of our āstartersā played more than half the games this season due to injuries. it would be stupid to move him IMO, as he knows the system and the players and he can deputize as needed. for a marginal hit on the payroll, you donāt move him out and pay a guy Ā£80k/wk to sit on the bench for 20 games a year.
Itās almost like you all werenāt paying attention to what happened this year. Gomez, Matip both crocked and VvD was taken out for the season. He stepped up and did the job we needed done, and you want to sell him? fuck loyalty, hey?
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yes, it is. he plays a part at a low cost.
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Never said I wanted to sell him and heās fine for 5th or 6th choice. But if we could get over 10 million in for him itās a deal worth doing. Itās almost as if you havenāt paid attention.
And just because last season was a freak season doesnāt mean this season will be. As it is weāll have 6 capable of playing CB even if Nat is sold.
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Nat was, and never will be a first choice CB in a Jurgen team (but neither would Carragher.!)
The lad obviously knows this, even to the extent that LFC, the season before last, were letting him walk out of the door for nothingā¦ Discarded so to speak.
When he was called upon as the decimation of the squad continued, Nat, without sulking or resentment that he wasnāt even considered good enough to be included in the knock-out stages of the CLā¦ answered Jurgenās ācall to armsā with āgrit and determinationā that brought an injection of energy when the team seemed to be floundering on the reefs of self belief, at a time we needed it most.
HE USED THE TOOLS HE WAS EQUIPPED WITH, AND DID HIS BEST.!
If the world was a fair place the decision whether Nat stays or goes, should be his alone
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