What did he do that lined up with the teachings of Jesus?
It massively strains credulity to claim Hitler was a Christian.
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As noted above.
We might be in danger of not understanding the difference between Christendom and Christianity.
The prevailing system and worldview in western Europe in the 20th century was Christendom. Pick a random date, and a man goes to the hospital in England, and as he checks in he fills out a form, and ticks the box that says he is a Christian.
He might be no such thing. Never went to church. Never believed. In every aspect of his life he might be irreligious, but there was a time in history (pre Jedi option on forms!) when he would identify as a Christian because he was an Englishman, and a good Englishman was a Christian.
This sort of worldview intertwined in numerous facets of society. I remember Primary School back in the day in England. We sang Christian hymns at assembly. Even in high school the headmaster might have read an excerpt from the Christian scriptures, and so on.
This was a secular school, not a church school or anything like that. (Granted, I know all this has changed now, and we are multicultural, etc. No need for anyone to make that point).
The point I am making is that for most of the 20th Century, Western Europe had a prevailing worldview in keeping with Christendom.
This is not the same as Christianity.
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It massively strains credibility to attach any kind of logic to Hitler. He was batshit. He also changed his religious views through his life, starting as a catholic, describing himself as a Christian in Mein Kampf, before later in his political career being increasingly influenced by pantheism and Nordic mythology, and he even tried to promote a new version of Christianity called âPositive Christianityâ, reworking a lot of the doctrine to be sympathetic to his personal ideology, recasting Jesus as an Aryan Warrior etc. He was a bit all over the place.
But nevertheless, he was never, ever an atheist. He dislike atheism and believed in a god right until the end.
Just want to reiterate sincere thanks to all for an interesting discussion, and apologies if it is boring or tangential to others as you peruse.
Nothing but respect and love to my fellow reds here, and it is interesting to chew the fat on this topic.
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Not sure about that. Itâs only last year that I had to phone school to complain because they sent my 5 year old son a worksheet about how Jesus drove the demons out of a hysterical woman.
Fair enough! Iâve been out of the country for 13 years.
Was this a church school? Or just a garden variety primary school with no religious attachment?
Side-track possibly, christian school?
Local authority controlled secular comp, albeit with a mandated RE strand as per the national curriculum.
I got an apology from the school, and an undertaking that they would check RE worksheets in future before using them.
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Beat me to it. The you have to ask IF children should be taught about religion at all in schools.
Nope, just national curriculum RE.
I also remember the time that my eldest came home stating that if peopleâs bodies donât work properly they are being punished by god. As my brother in law is a wheelchair user, this is a big problem for us.
This was from getting a vicar in to talk to the kids and giving him free reign to spout utter nonsense.
Itâs not a terrible school, but they are a bit lazy at times.
My view on RE in schools is that it is fine to educate the kids on what the major world religions teach, in an informative way, and not going into the periphery of things. The overarching thing should be in order to promote understanding of how different people might see the world.
Still, RE is a ânice to haveâ sort of subject to round out an early education, but obviously the kids need to learn maths, English, science, languages, history, geography, and so on and so forth.
With the following caveat: so long as your actions do not harm others.
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And there you go believers in the almighty. Flat out incontestable evil. Which I appreciate is a human construct.
One of my best mates is a Vicar (verging on bishop), I know he has no time for this bullshit but I will ask him his thoughts.
Hitler hating Jews wasnt down to Jews killng Christ,
he hated them (and communists) because he believd they had lost Germany the WW1.
Amen to that. thatâs where Darwin should come into play 
This is your interpretation?
this is the thing about the Bible, its all open to interpretationâŚ
example beenâŚ
âi will tear down this temple and rebuild it in 3 daysâ
or words to that affect
He also made many references to the Jews killing Christ and bring responsible for his torture.
But ultimately, weâre arguing about the contradictory and self defeating points of a madman.
The only thing we can really be sure of about Hitlerâs religious beliefs was that he wasnât an atheist, and he definitely believed in god.
Sorry did I just read above âHitler was a Christianâ
This thread is getting silly.
Hitler may have been a Christian from the point of view that he lived in a âChristian countryâ but to even suggest Hitler was a Christian just because he proclaimed to be carrying out Gods work is ludicrous
If you read on through the thread?
Hitlers religious views were a confused mess, but he made a number of proclamations about the role of Christianity in German Life, that leave little doubt that he was a Christian, and even where he clashed with the church he believed he was acting as a Christian.
Even if you want to argue he had a twisted view of Christianity, and he wasnât really a Christian, you canât argue he was a deeply religious man and certainly not an atheist.