Kiev is about to fall probably:¨
Desperate measures:
Different front:
Yes, confirmed by many sources. Russians have arrived in Kiev and attacks it directly:
Turns out the Ukrainians actually never did defeat the paras at the airport. Just contained them. Now, they have been freed by other RU troops. It was probably a Ukrainian political decision to lie to alleviate panic while they tried to fight them.
Pro Russian Geroman has this:
So several para drops around Kiev…
While a large Russian armoured column is fighting through a suburb. Looks grimmer than grim.
However, it is confusing. Both sides lie. But if I were to guess, RU advances far greater than Ukraine officially admits.
Location of gunfire:
Some acounts claim it was the saboteurs, and that they wee killed.
Contains dead body
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The UK and France expect that Russia go for Moldova and Georgia after they have taken the whole of Ukraine since they are former Sovjet republics and non-NATO members.
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The world watches as a bully does as it wants, totally complicit in allowing him to get so enboldened. They took Russian money for years and this is the result. The FA, FIFA, EUFA, Uk Govnt etc. We should all be ashamed.
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What would you suggest, Nuclear war? Because that’s what it could lead to, if there’s military conflict between Russia and NATO. I know the situation needs military intervention to kick Putin’s ass out of Ukraine, but don’t forget Russia has thousands of nuclear warheads and I believe Putin is mad enough to use some of them. It’s very easy for us sitting at home, thousands of miles away, to criticise, but then we don’t have to make these life or death decisions, do we?
No you cut off all his money… This is who he answers to… Oligarchs… Another name for mafia bosses.
Make them lose all their illgotten gains and they will stop him. It won’t happen though, the Tory party is up to their neck in Russian money
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I don’t disagree with that at all.
1 brings global annihilation. We survived Cuba, let’s not fuck it up now.
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I suggested targeting Russian Mafia bosses and their assets in the USA and UK, then deporting them back to Moscow, a few days ago. But some people on here seem to think that’s not realistic.
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It’s not but you can freeze and take their assets.
You can switch off all the oil and gas being pumped into Europe, take the hit and fund the energy hike yourself etc.
To me it’s all bandaids.
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And here are the suppression forces for occupation, RosGvardia:
I’m all for going after them, but from what I’ve heard I doubt that the oligarchs are in any position to threaten Putin.
Sanctions are still weak ass at the moment though.
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I am only stating the realities of it all. As much as I know that there is no way I want the rest of the world to start a war with Russia, its also true that sanctions are useless.
You left out the IOC.
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Yes, so am I. If the west uses military force, the result doesn’t bare thinking about.
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There will be hundreds more… Russia, UAE, Saudi etc. sportswashing at it’s finest. You had people on TIA creaming themselves that China would own us, made me feel sick.
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For years Russia has been the biggest dick on the world stage. Despite overt hostilities there has been many olive branches. Attempts to bring them into the wider international community. My take is that Putin does not want it. There was the stick and the bear analogy above. But the reality Russia is the one with the stick. Continually poking, continually pushing the boundaries
Putin is portrayed as some master mind (a bit like Cummins was) I don’t think anything of the sort. He’s a thug, with no respect of people, values or laws. The lies are so transparent.
Look at last week. The build up of troops and the indignant response towards accusations that they are preparing for war. Followed by attacks on the West claiming it was anti Russian rhetoric. That indignity shifts to mocking the west for the absurdity of such a suggestion. This is quickly followed by them being the victim. The victim of the west, the victim of Ukraine aggression, the victim of NATO expansion. That they had no choice. It’s self defence, preventing atrocities. It’s all bullshit. Again and again Putin/Russia routinely lies, manipulates, and plays the victim.
Respect is earnt, and it is no wonder that the international community treats Russia differently. They lie so much, the truth become opaque.
Look at the catalog of activities over the years. In the UK critics have been poisoned with polonium and novichok. Others seem to meet pretty unfortunate deaths. Like locking themselves in a duffel bag. It’s bad enough the murders on UK soil , but it’s done with such a clumsy way with total disregard for the safety for normal citizens. But the defensive is as above. Claim western propaganda, lie and mock. The spy’s appearing of TV to say they wanted to see Salisbury cathedral absurd.
That’s before you consider the unfortunate way political opponents, journalists, human rights proponents meet unfortunate ends in Russia and former Soviet countries. It’s done in a public way to intimidate, to scare those that might defect, those that might oppose.
The way Russia has been interfering with our election process should have been the straw breaking the camels back. Be it the UK or the US. They sow discord, they fund far right nationalists. From cyber attacks, and social media bots. They actively undermine democracy. This should have had far greater consequences than it has.
There there’s the propaganda. From Russia Today to many of our news outlets being owned by Russian oligarchs. It hurts our democracy.
Then there’s there actions on the international stage. Name a dictator or bad regime and it’s likely have good relations with Russia. Syria, North Korea, Iran, Libya. This translates to the UN. Numerous times they have vetoed aid, sanctions or other actions that was not in their personal self interest to prop up these regimes. It disgraceful.
They have no interest in making the world a better place. It’s the opposite Russia seeks to divide, destabilise and try take advantage. In short they are dicks.
They should be shunned. Time and time again they do something shitty. Like shooting down a passenger plane or hacking the NHS and fuck all happens. They behave like a toddler that has never been displined. There needs to be real consequences. Otherwise next it will be Baltic states next.
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It’s utterly grim, and you then have Ben Wallace our defense secretary trying to take some sort of credit?? It’s utterly shameless;
Speaking now on Radio 4, the UK’s Defence Secretary Ben Wallace says that the verified assessment of the UK intelligence services is that Russia has failed on day one to take any of its objectives.
"It failed because Ukrainians fought.
"It failed because of Putin’s ego thinking they’d think he was a liberator, was dashed.
"It failed because of the lethal aid that allowed [Ukrainians] to take on Russian tanks and aircraft."
Wallace continued: “They’ve lost about 450 personnel, the Russian armed forces. They’ve failed with their elite Spetsnaz to take the airport just north of Kyiv.”
A parasite speaking.
Thousands of refugees are currently on their way out. Camps at the border are growing and filling up.
I just read this thread
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