Russian War Crimes (Part 2)

From yesterday (14.05)
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1790630196959121816
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1790681120121426040
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1790861072661917870
Results:
https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1790716403894378742
Also reported damage to 3-4 Ru fighter jets.

From tonight, because there has been a large follow up attack!
https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1790844231180861814
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1790853161533501566
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1790853219633033632
https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1790840367551558083
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1790845300304748606
Also:
https://twitter.com/ukraine_map/status/1790852085476389098
https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1790850675347198353
Results of latter, if any, very unknown.

I could post tons of videos of soldiers getting blown up, but it gets old and has little news value. But I will say this and post some as an example. Russian infantry losses in kharkiv are very significant and they have now even been forced to withdraw from points they captured yesterday.
Some examples:
Viewer discretion is here advised, these are of course what in English is called “graphic”. But serves as a reminder that any Ru advance comes at a very high cost:
https://twitter.com/albafella1/status/1790823899195654520
https://twhttps://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1790644345579639000
itter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1790802768686350830
https://twitter.com/gettylegion/status/1790776905349878071
https://twitter.com/Russiafraud/status/1790750587539325259
https://twitter.com/gettylegion/status/1790706052629164418

Situation for Ukraine is critical, but at current, Kharkiv front has stabilised.

3 Likes

A bit of a side-point here, but where does that denomination ‘orc’ coming from? You can see it being used quite commonly in Ukrainian reports.

I know that Russians haven’t endeared themselves with the Ukrainians, and understand the anger, but I have some difficulty with this. It’s like when the Hutus called the Tutsis ‘cockroaches’, or some Israelis calling Palestinians a ‘cancer’ or ‘vermin’.

The goal was / is obviously to lead us to believe that the opposing soldiers and civilians aren’t human, and that is something I don’t like.

1 Like

I think it is pretty simple - with some of the utter brutality, rape, murder, mutilation and looting that common Russian soldiers have inflicted on Ukrainian civilians and prisoners of war, many Ukrainians have to come view Russians in a way reminiscent of Tolkien - the evil is not just from the top down, but engrained in most Russians. Sometimes it is easier to dehumanize than to confront the possibility of human evil.

1 Like

It’s easier indeed, but it’s not the right thing to do imo. We all have a dark side in ourselves, and it would be better to recognize it, before allowing others to dehumanize us (kill them, rape them, loot them, they aren’t human!). Otherwise, we’ll soon read as well about Ukrainian brutality, rape, murder, mutilation and looting…

Fingers crossed that it will never come to that, but this kind of language isn’t very encouraging.

It actually works very powerfully against two incompatible projects. Putin is laying a foundation for a Ukrainian hatred of Russians that will be far more powerful than the resentment borne of the Czars’ time, or the primacy of Russians in the USSR. His project of re-absorption cannot possibly succeed in the face of that. At the same time, there is a significant Russian minority in Ukraine, many of whom are no friends of Putin’s regime either. The more conflict splits on strictly ethnic lines, the less hope there is for that minority.

Of course, that probably plays into Putin’s current end game. You can see the trace outlines of the settlement he wishes to impose already. Take the Donbas and the majority Russian region around Kharkiv, force a peace, declare victory.

2 Likes

I strongly expect that is indeed how it will end…

and the largest NPP in Europe.

Russians call Ukrainians cockroaches, Ukrainians calls Russian soldiers Orcs since the invasion of Kyiv and the Bucha massacre. Its Lord of the Rings. But yes, its dehumanising, but consider that Nazi was often used and is used, in a dehumanising manner as well historically about German soldiers fighting for Hitler’s Reich. The world, and human beings, isn’t perfect.
Ideally, both sides would not fight at all but at least be chivalrous, but that’s not how it is and its not how it will be. The dehumanising terminology will fade with peace.

1 Like

Ideally Russia wants more than that so would be currently even unlikely to accept that. The conditions for settlement isnt there yet, both sides have too much at stake for that. But yes, I too think it will be akin to a Winter War 1939 “Peace” at the very end unless something changes radically (which is still quite possible).

Yesterday Blinken was saying that it was upto Ukraine if they wanted to use missiles to attack Russian troop build-ups in their own backyard. That strikes me as a significant shift in position. And on top we now have this which would suggest that the rules of the game are changing fast.

2 Likes

putting Russia onto the back foot with a bit of “preventative maintanance” on their own side of the border would be a big shift in this war.

2 Likes

https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1791173383150833703

https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1791243531362734584
https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1791254967661084709

1 Like

Maybe something nice, maybe a failed attack, we’ll see:
https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1791273540219486531

Anecdotes, so be cauttious of running with it. But there are some such anecdotes now:
https://twitter.com/PStyle0ne1/status/1791001419144642943

1 Like

Well, the explosions at Novorossiysk naval base seem rather quite real :wink:
https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1791273224245760008

1 Like

https://twitter.com/Danspiun/status/1791253704802193877
https://twitter.com/Danspiun/status/1791255141527552177
https://twitter.com/Danspiun/status/1791238691593007446
https://twitter.com/Danspiun/status/1791044979835514940

https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206900198957166
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206903017566712
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206906041635287
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206907853578620
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206909636231452
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206911376752872
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206913293586572
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206915160088794
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206918104429021
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206919991914532
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206921854210446
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206923766731153
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206925570396513
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206927378063512
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206929206800530
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206930981044245
https://twitter.com/Inkvisiit/status/1791206933053001739

Thread by @Inkvisiit on Thread Reader App – Thread Reader App?