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Yep.

There is a very small part of me that would be curious enough to visit to see what sort of shite they are spouting, but in the end I know that it would lead down some very dark rabbit holes

Heā€™s already tried and failed once. The sort of people interested in that are not satisfied by just being in their echo chamber. They need the conflict with the people they rail against, which is why platforms like Parlor never really fulfil the need the people who claim to hate the regular platforms actually have.

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I do wonder if it would become a platform for some pretty sinister goings on? If it followed the same set as Facebook it could have various little private groups on there that could really get up to no good.

Sure, parlor is used like that and was a significant factor in organization of the Jan6 rally. But so was facebook.

This from the person that has been called out repeatedly for her social media outbursts and allegedly deleted over 2000 of here own tweets or whatever. Personally, Iā€™d argue the opposite to her views given that those that lean towards conspiracies also tend to be right leaning on the political spectrum.

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Sheā€™s right: social media has been hijacked.

But by the right, not the left.

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If there was any doubt in my mind about who I was voting for in the next election, this Dorries woman is a huge red flag.

Sheā€™s absolutely a Trump-style conservative, peddling the idea that anybody who gives a shit about the environment or not being a racist is a soy-drinking leftie.

Does Cancel-culture exist?
Yes, I believe it does, but I believe it always has and I donā€™t believe itā€™s a bad thing.

Weā€™ve basically always ā€˜cancelledā€™ celebs when they do shitty things or betray themselves as assholes. We ā€˜cancelledā€™ Gary Glitter is the late 90s for being a paedo. And youā€™d struggle to find anyone who thinks thatā€™s a problem. And while iā€™m not comparing paedophiles to outspoken right wing comedians, the principle is the same. If you see someone who is obviously an utter melt spouting shit on social media, you have every right to stop listening and not watch them on the telly anymore. They may have the right to say what they like, but we absolutely donā€™t have to listen to them or give them a platform to talk from if we happen to be in a position to decide on that. Thatā€™s what cancel culture is, though it rarely actually ā€˜cancelsā€™ the individual as for every negative reaction on the left, there is a positive reaction on the right where your man in the street decides this person is talking sense, iā€™ll buy their dvd!

The problem the likes of Dorries has with cancel culture is that 90% of the things people actually find offensive enough to ā€˜cancelā€™ someone or said or written by people like her.

Iā€™ve been ā€˜cancelledā€™ by a few members of the Republican party, simply by tweeting their own words back to them.

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Yep, our best weapon against horrible pĆŖople is to ignore them. Then shame others into ignoring them as well. The trouble is these days people seemed attracted to horrible people. What is going on?

Shame.

Thoughts and prayers for facebook :pray:t3:

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The problem with the cancel culture now and the ā€˜cancelā€™ culture back then in our times is that back then, more of it were based on principles and facts. Today, alot of the cancelling going on is dependent on who has the bigger voice on the internet. You win and lose the battle simply because there are more ā€˜fansā€™ on either side and who plays the social media game better. Rules, laws and evidence do not matter anymore in the social media sphere.

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I am also a strong believer that one day, that the law needs to mandate a strong punishment for people who propagates or forward the wrong news knowingly or unknowingly on the internet. The internet and social media has allowed for many things to be surfaced that in the past were not possible and that is the good side of it. But it has also created a whole new segment of vigilantes who just mindlessly forward whatever they see as truth. I always believe that if you want to use social media as a way to highlight injustice to relevant authorities or society, then on the flip side, you must be punished if your content caused injustice to another person or parties.

Just to give a small example in Singapore. Few weeks back, a video surfaced on the internet of a rich guy driving his Bentley and when stopped by the security who told him to queue up behind the other cars to enter the school, the rich guy continued to inch forward and injured the security. In days, a certain name and profile was circulated around the internet and this supposed guy ends up being the wrong guy identified and by then damage is done, he has received threatening calls, prank calls to himself and his businessā€¦hundreds and thousands of them. And while that video has done well to ensure that the security would have his rights protectedā€¦the subsequent stuff is what is so wrongā€¦and every single person who forwarded the identity of this wrong guy or post it on their own social media needs to be punished for causing injustice to this wrong guy.

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Does this not speak more to how disaggregated society is rather than any fault of the medium itself?

Of course its the users rather than the weapon who determine how it is used. And unfortunately, we can go on taking a laissez faire stance towards the abuse of this weapon, with society and governments thinkingā€¦oh its just social mediaā€¦oh its just too difficult to police, oh its just too difficult to mandate or legislateā€¦ if this kind of thinking continues within the policy makers mind and there is no iron will to rein in the abuse of this medium or weapon, things will unravel so fast, it will be scarier than a real physical weaponized war. I really do no mind seeing people being actually sent to prison for thinking they can casually post or forward fake information or news to get people into trouble and claim ignorance when found out. This should be treated as a crime, a much more serious crime.

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I rather meant that the solution lies in the rather out dated notion of education and not just in the 3 Rs, but also in social, environmental and emotional awareness. Governments everywhere seem to fall into the trap of making the education system a race to the finish and overly competitive. There has to be a more measured and thoughtful approach to education going forward.

Introducing laws, which will likely have to come in (as the other option will take too long or never come to fruition), is like treating the symptoms rather than the disease.

Understand what you meant, but there is no conflict and both needs to be done. In my experience, most humans are responsible. However, it only takes a small number to spread poison throughout. Some of you might know Singapore as the infamous country of banning chewing gum but not many would know why. In the early 80s, the first mention of a ban for gums were brought up because people were sticking it everywhere notably in our public housing, in the elevators causing alot of aesthetics and maintenance issue. But it was dismissed, instead they went down the route of education of telling people why it should not be done. But the problem persisted, and the final straw is when we have our very first very own rapid transit and people were sticking gums to the doors especially on the sensors, on the seats and causing a fair number of disruptions because doors cannot be closed properly etcā€¦so in the early 90s, the government finally said, fuck it, we will ban it. And this is only one of the issues that the government tried to educate but after some time, decided to say, fuck it, we want to treat you guys as adults but it seems, you all prefer the stick and I find that sucks because its again the minority who is making the majority suffer for no reason. And right now with social media, I think this is exactly the issue. Education can never stop and whether it has an impact or not, it is something that must always be pursued and implemented. But the governments need to put in the stick fast because like you said, education is not going to change behaviours faster than the damage that these idiots will cause.

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