The Arsenal Thread (Part 1)

Last 5 games we’ve won 11pts each.

If you take it to 6 we won and they drew. Newcastle have 12/15 over 5 and 6 games and Man City have 13/16.

Over 10 we are tied with them and Newcastle.

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The biggest threat to us winning the league are the owners that brought us the coaches and the players that have us 6 points clear with a game in hand?

That’s not heresy, it’s just silly.

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We smashed Leicester who were in a similar vein of form during our trophy winning season. That after coming back tired and jetlagged after winning the club world cup.

Bournemouth is a really good side playing under a really good coach. But newsflash , so are we.

We play close to our best. There’s no side in the world who can keep up with us. We’ve shown that with Klopp before and with Slot now.

Do we win against Bournemouth? I hope we do. It’s going to be a cracking match and I hope Slot does get his tactics right.

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Forest? A draw versus Brentford but for late heroics from Darwin?

No question, if we play to our best we will run Bournemouth off the park.

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A game when we dominated against Brentford?

The last 30 against Forest, it’s been some of our best football regardless of when we won the games.

As someone pointed out the goals Forest conceded were mistake ridden bar the first.

But ok we will lose badly, in fact let’s just give Arsenal the title.

All the time you’ve got Arsenal not particularly playing well and grinding out results but apparently that’s a positive and us doing more isn’t.

As I said this attitude is fucking tiresome.

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Dominating a game probably involves converting time in the opponent’s end into goals. That stopped being easy for a bit.

It isn’t a matter of giving Arsenal the title. In the end, it is simple convergent mathematics. Arsenal need to make up 2 points every 3 rounds to draw level. This cluster of 3 games (excluding Everton) is their best chance to make up ground, because we face City and Bournemouth away. If they cannot pick up 2 points (or worse, see the gap widen if we can scrap past Everton), the logic starts turning relentless.

These next three games are a chance to all but close the door.

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If there is a leveller to this game… We play midweek, they don’t

Not to mention, the one managing the football side of the operations at the owners is the one idolised by so many as some kind of actual transfer god.

Ayden Heaven, 18 year old CB, is leaving Arsenal to go to Manchester United just as Chido Obi-Martin did earlier this season. Quite surprised as Heaven has had first team opportunities this season such as coming on in the Carabao Cup.

He’s very raw for a defender, defending is clearly not his favourite task, and I actually think he looks a much better player when he gets the ball in midfield and drives forward with it.

I know that Lewis-Skelly and Nwaneri have made the step-up now at Arsenal but I do wonder if there is a feeling among their youth that it’s too difficult to get chances. Nwaneri and Lewis-Skelly are two talents that cannot be denied, simply, they’ll both be England internationals and long time Premier League players. However they are also the only two players U21 to make a league appearance at Arsenal since Arteta took over 5 years ago - with the exception of Saka who was already an established first team player.

In the last two seasons they’ve lost Owen Asemota (to Aston Villa for 1m after he rejected a scholarship), Chido Obi-Martin and Ayden Heaven to Man Utd and Macauley Zepa to Fulham. It’s not unusual to see players moved on from an academy of course but reports are that Arsenal wanted to keep all of these players and they refused to sign contracts to move on. Martin and Heaven could be accused of chasing a pay-day at Man Utd but Asemota and Zepa going to Villa and Fulham don’t seem like cash-grabs.

Lots more players have left besides those four, as is normal, but those four in particular seemed to sting Arsenal’s staff a bit.

It also seems a little strange that they’ve been putting 22 year old winger Nathan Butler-Oyedeji on the bench recently. I understand giving him a reward of a couple of minutes in an easy CL game like they did against Zagreb but he’s consistently been on the bench for the first team and quite frankly he’s kind of rubbish. He’s way too small and just not technically of the quality of a Premier League footballer. It’s all a bit odd.

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Mini-Guardiola at the wheel!

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It would actually suck camel balls if they were deducted points this year.

Its the arsenal thread…so…they appealed the red card for Lewis-Skelly.

Given the PGMOL said they backed the red card, hard to see it being overturned now. Personally, thought it was yellow card worthy challenge, but can see why Oliver gave the red, and therefore not clear and obvious (plus everyone is scared of Oliver).

Shame Arsenal managed to win the game, as without that really shite win, they would have blamed the refs for more points dropped, and not for being shite at football and Arteta being Pulis 2.0.

Ban has been overturned

I don’t know whether to be disappointed or to laugh at how this will make them even angrier

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Moved some discussion of FSG to The Owners thread. Doesn’t have much to do with Arsenal

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Makes PGMOL look even more daft. What next, footage of Howard Webb taking ketamine and then coming out as gay.

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'Mikel Arteta has urged football to prioritise changing the culture that surrounds the game and eradicate “hatred”, saying: “We don’t want it, we don’t need it, it can only damage our sport, so let’s get it out.”

… says the guy who rails against referees every single time his team doesn’t get three points.

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Having just watched this SS discussion on YouTube https://youtu.be/T5USEL5vJqY?si=d2Lg4KCsxdjkmaUT, is that little weed on the right a known Arsenal supporter?

I agree that the decision is wrong, that the freeze frame makes it look worse, and that this is another case where the operating dynamics that PGMOL have set up between the on-field ref and the VAR limit what ‘common sense’ approach they can make decisions with. VAR should be able to ask a ref to view the screen without the decision meeting the ‘clear and obvious’ definition (though I understand the problems this would cause with VAR being able to referee a game fairly).

But this clown on the right also wanted to make the argument, multiple times including once at the end as some of his closing words, that the freeze frame met more the definition of a raking yellow rather than a raking red.

Using this still:

Is it just me or is this guy bonkers thinking this still image looks more like a yellow??

The rule book literally says a yellow is a raking on the foot and anything above the ankle is a red, so why is that guy trying to convince the 3 other panelists that the still looks like a yellow when the studs up still is on the fucking calf?

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I’d pay good money to see some of those cats in a K hole…

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I fully expected it to get downgraded because ultimately what Skelly did can be argued as a cynical foul.

What I think Oliver is doing is trying to apply some context to the decision, and I think I come down on his side more than Arsenals. Because if you are intending to simply stop the attack, there is absolutely no need to hit his ankle like that. To me it looks like trying to hurt your opponent, under the cover of a cynical foul.

That I think is what Oliver is trying to deal with. If you want to take a yellow for a cynical foul, pull the lad back or trip him up. Don’t stud his ankle. That’s a shithouse move and it should be discouraged.

The other one like this is the Martinez stamping tackle thing he does. Since he isn’t getting anywhere near the player, the ref can’t send him, but he he is going to end up breaking someone’s leg, and it needs adressing.

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