The Arsenal Thread (Part 1)

[cynicaloldgit]

@Sithbare

there’s an increasing entitlement among otherwise normal arsenal fans.

There are plenty of entitled Liverpool fans, too.

Like those who turn up their noses at the Carabao Cup.

[Sithbare]

I said. It’s only important if we reach the finals.

There’s a huge difference.

[RER]

The Arsenal fan changed when Poundshop Pep arrived.

[Sithbare]

Does seem that way.

[cynicaloldgit]

@Sithbare

There’s a huge difference.

You carry on believing that.

[Sithbare]

The PL always was the key.

[cynicaloldgit]

Yes, the Premier League is the most important trophy to win.

However, that does not mean that the opportunity to win any trophy has to be sacrificed. There are only four trophies available in any given season (assuming a team is in Europe) - any one of them should be celebrated.

[ShadesOfRed]

@cynicaloldgit

However, that does not mean that the opportunity to win any trophy has to be sacrificed.

Regardless of how we feel about it, managers’ team selections, in earlier rounds of cups especially, have reinforced the idea that cups aren’t as important.

[cynicaloldgit]

Managers are, by and large, judged on their performance in the league. and understandably prioritise that competition as a consequence.

However, this does not detract from the fact that any trophy success is to be celebrated. People who are indifferent when we get knocked out of a cup are not real supporters, in my eyes at least; a true fan wants the team to win every game it plays.

[ShadesOfRed]

The two seasons under Klopp where we had long runs in all competitions but ending up without major trophies changed my attitude on the cups to be honest, for now at least. Not saying I was indifferent to getting knocked out of the FA cup this year, but I got over it quick. That said, I was glad the club had something to celebrate in Klopp’s last season.

It depends on where we are as a club I guess. When we had that long barren run after Rafa’s FA cup, I celebrated Dalglish’s Carling Cup win more than City fans collectively celebrated their treble (not saying much… but you know what I mean).

[peterroberts]

To win four competitions is an impossibility. Just think back to how we felt when we ended up with the two domestic cups instead of the Prem and the CL , and look at the toll it took on the players. No matter how much you try to romanticise it , there’s only two competitions that count.

[cynicaloldgit]

@peterroberts

there’s only two competitions that count.

Absolute nonsense.

[Bekloppt]

@Sithbare

Not including City fans who barely qualify as humans.

There’s banter, and there’s hateful rubbish.

[Sithbare]

@Bekloppt

There’s banter, and there’s hateful rubbish.

I’m still saying they’re humans.

[RedArmada]

@peterroberts

To win four competitions is an impossibility

It’s not impossible and it will be done some day. We came 2 games short, battling a cheating club all season. It’s not a huge leap of faith to think that if we had secured the league sooner, we would have been better prepared for the final as well.

The margins were very thin.

[ShadesOfRed]

@RedArmada

The margins were very thin.

If the results of just 4 games were flipped, Klopp would have had 3 CLs and 3 PLs. It’s crazy to think about.

[Sithbare]

@ShadesOfRed

If the results of just 4 games were flipped

Also 4 crucial refereeing decisions in 4 games too

[jaffod]

@Sithbare

Is it me or are arsenal fans becoming unbearable ?

Sure every fanbase has their share of morons. But don’t arsenal seem to have more than their fair share.

Not including City fans who barely qualify as humans

@Sithbare

Ive had lifelong friends who are arsenal fans. Even during their “invincible days” , they weren’t unbearable. They had respect for Liverpool and vice versa too.

But there’s been a marked change in their behaviour ever since Arteta took over

My opinion of them changed after the 5-5 in the Caraboa Cup or whatever it was called a few years back.
They celebrated goals like they’d just won the fucking CL instead of scoring against our reserves and their dickhead players didn’t help by nearly jumping into the Anny Rd end after a couple of them.
And they still lost on pens! Proper Arsenal.
I’ve disliked them intensely since that night, they were always ok but are just a shower of small-time dickheads now.

[RedWhippet]

Hello everybody peeps. It’s the Arse, init?

[Colossal_centre_back]

Personally wouldn’t have mind Arsenal winning the CL as a club given the things mentioned above. Atleast they are not state backed, complete cheats like Chelsea Madrid or City or have the sense of entitlement the likes of Utd do.

But Arteta being the first manager to get it done for them just doesn’t feel right. Not sure what the reason is, personal grudges that he’ll have same no of CL titles as Klopp had with us or the way they dive and cheat with somehow winning by set pieces and not having to go through the cycle of winning by margins, going through semis or finals before actually winning it. They have grown over the years I give them that.

And the fact that it takes one title to them having to start believing they can win the league. Maybe I am scared that they are doing things the right way and will become another competitor for us if they get one title. Just don’t want that. I love us being the only club at the top lol.