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Yeah, itâs fucking awful. Rangnick tried to tell United this and they wouldnât have it.
Amorim is probably smart enough to realise that the only ones with any future are the young academy lads, and itâs going to need close enough to a total rebuild.
The difficulty for him is that there is quite a bit of delusion about the quality of these player amongst the fans and the owners.
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Sorry to keep on this but it wasnât so many years it was just the Hodgson months (perhaps felt like years). Prior to and since weâve at least had periods of hope, encouragement and excitement albeit without the consistency for the league title until 2020 and we never plumbed the lows of Woy, which coinciding with the Hicks and Gillette Cowboys, looked like it could send us down a very dark path.
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Might suit Amorim not to change the footballing personnel too quickly, because it could work to his advantage to hold back a few sacrificial lambs, while he adjusts to the demands of his surroundings.
IMO, he needs to get through 2-3 full seasons without getting sacked himself, to have a real chance of creating a successful side⌠be good (for him) if he still had some excuse to use along the way
Nah, itâs fucking beautiful
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He needs to get his contract extended.
That is usually when shit does hit the fire and managers end up getting sacked for United. After blowing 700m on a ârebuildâ
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Not really. Konchesky was crap, but he had a long-ish career in the PL. Poulsen was crap, but he was at the tail of a decent first tier career. Most of the players in the side were PL-grade, just not particularly good. Spearing was a particular sign of the desperation of the times, because he never got another sniff of the PL once he left LFC. The rest of his career was spent at about his level, hence my comment fortunately or unfortunately. It must have been incredibly tough on him.
But that sort of points to what Amorim doesnât appear to have much of on hand. I think the flawed squad that Klopp had to work with initially had much more to offer that what Amorim has. While I think the ManU side today has far more talent than that sorry 2010/11 LFC side, mentally it is nowhere close. That 10/11 side had players who still remembered how close Rafa had come, and who still worked hard (Kuyt was in that side). By the time Rodgers takes over, it isnât great, but it still has leadership and it has added Suarez. Still probably not overall the same talent level as ManU has now, but much better positioned to produce improvement.
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Thing is, Amorim is infinitely better as a manager than Hodgson and Man United have incomparably more money and a better academy than that iterration of Liverpool. I think that Amorim doesnât have a solid basis of the team at the moment but he has a lot of useful parts that he needs to connect - he needs to find out how, though I hope he doesnât.
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Iâd agree with that. The conversation was focused on what Klopp dealt with when he started, but I think Rodgers is probably the more relevant comparison. Amorim has far more to work with than Hodgson if he can get the players to buy in. I just think that is going to be extraordinarily difficult there with that particular mix, it is essentially the Rangnick problem.
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Probably doesnât help that theyâve just had to pay off Ten Haag, and Sporting for their manager changes.
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Honestly, a period of normal financial constraints wouldnât be a terrible thing for them. It could be exactly the thing they need to break the habit of thinking their solutions could be found with one more expensive player (with questionable motivation and no consideration for fit)
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When Amorim discusses his Man United career in ten years, sitting down with their in-house Sky Sports TV station, surrounded by PL and CL trophies heâd won with them, theyâll ask him what was the turning point for his club and heâll say: âSo, one day I read a forum post from this guy, Limousine Scouse, and I showed it to clubâs directorsâŚâ
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If Amorim took my advice or listened to me in any way it would be the first time anyone did.
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ââŚand ten years later, we still canât believe that no one was listening to this guy everâŚâ
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I will start to worry the moment he punts Rashford and Ratface.
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For many of their players, ability or âqualityâ (not sure how to define that term) isnât the issue at United. You can see that when they get on one of those winning runs- letâs not forget theyâve been runners up a couple of times in the last decade and that doesnât happen by accident.
Itâs whether the quality they being in is the right fit, but more importantly whether those players have the right attitude. United seem to attract bellends and their mask slips when things arenât going their way in terms of results. Then the cancer takes hold until the manager is given the boot.
They need to ship on plenty of dick heads and unfortunately for them, most clubs are smarter than United and will steer clear of dick heads; especially dick heads on extraordinary wages.
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The irony of United fans turning on Rangnick when he was only an interim option who was allowed none of his staff.
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Winning commences at the top, then trickles down. INEOS and the Glazers are not going to get them to the dizzy heights of the PL⌠They are just too disconnected from the fanbase
Here is their latest strokeâŚ
Manchester United raise ticket costs for Members in shameful act against fans
Manchester United raise ticket costs for Members in shameful act against fans
Manchester United decided to raise match tickets for Members to ÂŁ66 per game for the remainder of the season, without consulting any of the recognised fan groups.
On Tuesday night, the club informed the Fans Forum of changes to certain ticket policies that will take effect immediately. In other words, a decision was made behind the fansâ backs on a fans-related matter.
Itâs a further sign that INEOS is not going to prioritise loyal match-going fans, which in turn has me fearing a new stadium because their preferred audience will likely be commercial.
Manchester United continue to fleece loyal fans
The latest changes to the ticket policies mean that all Membersâ tickets for the remainder of this season will increase to ÂŁ66 each.
To make matters worse, that price will apply for kids and over-65s as well as adults, which is disgraceful. It will cost an adult member ÂŁ132 to take their kid to a game in the remainder of the season.
Manchester United explain that 97% of this seasonâs tickets are already sold, so this will only affect a small number of people, but that doesnât justify it.
Itâs a concern that, along with the scrapping of ticket collections on Euro aways, United are happy to make detrimental changes without consulting the fans.
The club is essentially saying that the struggles on the pitch is the fault of the fans, so we have to pay more to watch it.
I genuinely feel that United are missing a trick in the market by not doing something to help encourage the youth to football matches. It would not only help build the atmosphere but ensure that the next generation doesnât go to the Etihad or elsewhere!
If the club truly cared about the younger demographic then they wouldnât be charging them ÂŁ66 to watch the current side.
INEOS are also responsible for over 200 redundancies at Manchester United.
Why punish the life and soul of the football club during a cost crisis when fans have done everything theyâve been asked? They get behind the team, win, lose or draw across the UK and continent. There was also a rise in season ticket prices.
We can expect the FAB, FF and Manchester United Supportersâ Trust to demand answers at the least but there should be some sort of protest to let them know we wonât have the wool pulled over our eyes.
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