What the fuck is that going to achieve???
I actually think a summit of regional leaders is a fairly positive development. If there is pan-Arab consensus on a moderate position, it sends a āstay the fuck outā signal to Iran, a ācome to the tableā signal to Israel, and tells Hamas that their fantasy of a modern counter-Crusade/Jihad is just that. It isnāt going to directly accomplish much, but it is a necessary precondition.
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Requesting Israel not to do genocide is as fruitless as telling Hamas to surrender to avoid civilian casualties.
Both rather pointless steps in terms of the end results but steps which need to be taken regardless
It may put a brake on Israeli plans. Thatās about the best anyone can hope for at the moment.
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Wise words.
Iran should remember that theyāre a Shia country which shares a border with a Sunni country which has shown itās willingness to allow American bases within their territory provided the right amount of cash is given.
Naive of Scholz to think otherwise. A less-radical Palestinian organization (the PLO of the early 70ās) attempted to overthrow Jordanās monarchy, they arenāt going to make the same mistake twice.
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The PLO burnt bridges with their neighbours is part of the reason why Hamas was forced to look towards Hezbollah and Iran
Since the 1947 UN partition plan that had exactly that plan, the status of Jerusalem has been largely left out of all discussions so itās not easy to know how they would react to such a plan now.
We know they rejected that idea in 1947, forcefully, but did they do so because of lack of control of the holy sites, or because that plan represented a significant backtrack of decades old promises plus more recent formal agreements that had been made (White Paper of 1939 - Wikipedia ) and required the displacement of a significant portion of their population?
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Its more likely itās the former. If the idea is pitched now as a peace plan, would they accept it ?
itās better than doing nothing except pulling the trigger! It gets people talking.
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It was meant as a rhetorical question, because the objection was very definitely not the former.
A tad macabre but I wonder if there are any efforts to āsolveā this issue with AI/AML. The parameters are there and the solution is likely, give people hope, but, as ever the application is more complicated. Maybe 42 has a question after all - just took 10 million years to solve!
āThe most privileged refugees on earthā
A real bleeding heart
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Iāve refrained from commenting on the situation up to now. What Hamas did was horrible, and deserves a strong response from Israel. I donāt think anyone would deny this.
However, turning off water, electricity, and food (and everything else) for 2 million Palestinian people while carpet bombing the 3rd most densely populated area on earth isnāt it for me. Iām terrified of what Israeli ground forces will do when they move in.
Target Hamas. Turn Mousad and the help from western intelligence agencies into surgical strikes against Hamas leadership. Taking your pound of flesh out of Palestinian people in vengeance is not a measured response to the awful attack, itās just ensuring that more attacks are coming.
Without being able to go back in time and unstich moments and decisions in history that have lead us here, the best you can hope for moving forward is that the same mistakes wonāt be made, but there is so much fear and hate on both sides of that 750 million dollar concrete and steel barrier that effectively pens the Gaza population in that some sort of measured response is out of the question. I fear the worst. IDF marching through Gaza City wonāt be pretty.
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no itās a shit situation all-around. the Zionist movement aided by the Balfour agreement has created this cauldron of discontent in the region and foreign nations were allowed to decide the fate of the Palestinian region.
all you have to do is look at the map of the division of land in Israel. the splitting of the Palestinian people between the West Bank and Gaza is just absurd. They walled in 2 million into a region that has no way to provide for themselves. If you had to compare it to any other place on earth, Gaza is a glorified refugee camp.
And it really doesnāt appear that either of the two countries who started this ball rolling (UK/USA) are going to fix their mistakes.
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The IDF has bombed a hospital in Gaza. Hundreds dead.
They can kiss goodbye to the moral high ground now.
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Atrocities like this make me suspect that Hamas and Israel is just propping-up each other.
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https://x.com/maxblumenthal/status/1714336646630387773?s=46&t=Tk6buFVfyHeITdfFRWCVMg
British government and Labour Party are complicit in this. Gave green light to Israel to unleash hell
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https://x.com/John_Hudson/status/1714350959256547619?s=20
Biden is going to Israel to lend support, and Iād be really nervous if I was him on how close to what is about to happen Iād get. Heās trying to thread the needle of supporting Israel while asking for humanitarian aid for Gaza. Iām not sure Israel has any interest allowing humanitarian aid into Gaza, which was the stipulation Blinken made in order for Biden to come over.
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