Following the Israeli Abassador to the UN’s yellow star stunt in front of the Security Council the other day , WAPO takes a look here at the Israeli narrative that seems to reference Nazis / The Holocaust / WWII in nearly all its utterances now.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/01/israel-historical-comparison-world-war-two-ii/
Freed article here: https://archive.ph/uk8lA
And European colonisers did to the native people in America. I wonder if, perhaps subconsciously, that’s where American support for Israel comes from. It’s no different than what they did 500 years ago, just with bigger guns
The only hope is that “all people, Israelis and Palestinians, between the river and the sea can live in peaceful liberty”… which Labour suspended Andy McDonald for suggesting
And guilt over their initial reluctance to allow Jews fleeing the Holocaust in.
Wow, these are strong words. But they are probably needed, along with others by some other people, in order to make our politicians wake up and smell the coffee.
I agree with your feeling that there is a prevailing siege mentality in Israel, as it covers my personal experience when I went there and came to speak with people.
But on the other hand, if you accept that Israel is still a regular democracy and votes aren’t fixed, then you have to come to the conclusion that a majority of voters has backed Netanyahou and his crazy politics over the last fifteen years or so.
Don’t hold your breath.
I don’t. 
Yep, sadly Israelis have blood all over their hands and the Jewish lobby is cheering.
It increasingly feels that the Israeli end game for this conflict is to force the Gaza citizens out. It’s a port city , which has a huge network of underground tunnels.
Destroying that City would possibly shift the Hamas threat to a single front (west bank) which doesn’t have the same infrastructure nor does it have the same transport connectivity.
There will be loads of international pressure kept on Egypt to accept the refugees. Plus sizable amounts of cash etc as well.
It wasn’t the americans who done it 500 years ago though.Certain states,in that case european, are aggressors and expect others to accept being colonised and beaten down.
Israeli lobby, not Jewish lobby.
Forgive me being tetchy on language. Let’s be clear: a hell of a lot of Jewish people are appalled by what Israel is doing. See the Jewish Voice for Peace activists and the occupation of the station in NY last week.
Absolutely vital to make that distinction
I mean this is the part of the problem. The actions of bad actors does not represent the wider group that they claim to speak for.
Netanyahou ≠ all Israelis ≠ worldwide Jews
Hamas ≠ Gazans ≠ Palestinians
These days
These days, it’s very trendy for many people around the world to label their political opponents as nazis.
This article alerts about the dangers of misusing this narrative: https://www.ushmm.org/information/press/press-releases/why-holocaust-analogies-are-dangerous
(…) Careless Holocaust analogies may demonize, demean, and intimidate their targets. But there is a cost for all of us because they distract from the real issues challenging our society, because they shut down productive, thoughtful discourse. At a time when our country needs dialogue more than ever, it is especially dangerous to exploit the memory of the Holocaust as a rhetorical cudgel. We owe the survivors more than that. And we owe ourselves more than that. (…)
According to this article, there is even a term which has been created in order to describe this tendency: reductio ad Hitlerum. It’s tragically ironic that the Israel goverment would fall into that trap as well.
Isreal spent the first 75 years of its existence very carefully avoiding the question of whether they were a democracy or a religous ethnostate and their constitution specifically was written to avoid saying anything about that question.
Then the recent rightward push in the government occurred and we got this - Israel’s controversial new “Jewish nation-state” law, explained - Vox
Precisely so , and it’s not just Israelis who are guilty of it. Just look at the trouble US politicians invariably find themselves in when they make these type of comparisons.
Somewhat premature , not to say wildly optimistic , but at least some serious people seem to be looking already at what comes next.
I’d be interested to hear if anyone can confirm the veracity of this , as prior to Oct 7 their position was the exact polar opposite ;
“The Saudis have told Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken that they want steps toward a Palestinian state to be part of any normalization accord with Israel.”
Edit: Apparently the quote above pre-dates the war. It still comes as a surprise to me however as most of the analysis I’d been reading had the Saudis down as agreeing to go quiet on the issue as one of the conditions for normalisation.
Yeah, but only because the Hamas and Israel terrorism threw a spanner into the wheels.
These are some despicable people and US is relentlessly patronising them.
Regarding the news, I watched a discussion on France 24 last night and a retired Israeli diplomat said the present conflict breaths new life into the two-state solution. But he said that both the sides have to make adjustments in the original idea.