The Owners - FSG

It’s not like the PL, they firstly had complete agreement with the FA, secondary the clause the EFL thought they had no longer was relevant.

Finally the PL could have sealed itself off but chose not too and allowed for relegation and promotion. It’s also quite fairly funded across the 20 clubs compared to this which would be 15 teams in an enclosed league.

Take Leicester, what would they have to play for? Or any of the other 13 clubs, I know some don’t care but I’m sorry this is depressing. If this was a new proposal for a European competition which was achievable on merit I would be a lot less down about it, even if it was effectively these clubs but AC Milan hasn’t been a top European club for a decade.

As an aside, as an example of how everything is currently hunky dory in the world of football greed with no changes required…

I have a BT Sport package on my phone… I still can’t watch an FA Cup semi final because I don’t have the super, ultra, upgrade or something.

They can still compete for the PL against some of the European super league teams (unless UEFA get their way and the PL kick the clubs out, otherwise Leicester would have a relatively easy run at it) and the CL.

Exactly same point I’ve made on other platforms. This outrage from fans who conveniently forget that the Premier League shafted the football league a shafting the football league has never recovered from.

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If UEFA and the Premier League are that keen on averting a European Premier league, they are going to have to get around the table with something more constructive than threats to ban clubs from their competitions.

They are going to have to start talking seriously about issues like TV rights.

To be honest my primary concern about a European Super League is the carbon footprint.

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What is going on is an absolute travesty.

Greed is killing football. European sport and especially football has its roots and rules. Domestic leagues, european competitions. Everybody has the chance to compete, surprising results do happen, even miracles. The small club will have their chances against the bigger clubs.
Now they try to create some kind of NHL or NBA model in football, treating the football clubs like the next franchise.
What about the other clubs like Leicester, West Ham, Villa, Leeds? Well, several rich guys together with J.P. Morgan say fuck off to every english club except 5 ot 6 and create a superleague spending crazy money, while the world is in a huge crisis - people are dying, others lose their jobs. Football fans can’t even attend matches, because of the pandemic. And maybe it is not a coincidence the moment to announce it - no fans on the stadiums, no one will tell them loudly what they think /like the Sunderland games several years ago/. Just a little and unpleasent noise in social networks…

At least Bayern Munich and the french clubs showed some sense and refused to play in this absurd competition. Looks like even $ity have not confirmed.

UEFA are also creating another stupid compettiton, but it is all about fuckin money.
Rich will get richer and poor will get pooreer.

Fuckin disgrace.

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I wonder if the Premier League regret doing a number on Project Big Picture now?

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On the owners front what do people want? If there IS going to be a European Super League would people really want us to not participate?

But the PL had the support of the FA, it’s not surprising that they were hoping for FIFA to be fine with it.

As much as I have issues with the PL, the EFL was a mess from its management to its TV agreements, think how much football was shown in the 80s compared to snooker.

Something was required and yet they remained within the structure of the football pyramid and parachute payments effectively safeguard most of the well run clubs.

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Change is needed…

Fifa/Eufa are corrupt…

The FA / Premiership are dinosaurs who refuse to move forwards, allowing sub-standard archaic structures like the PGMOL and VAR ruin the game…

If you aren’t part of it you’d be gutted, if you are you feel dirty…

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I remember reading how the English clubs didn’t really give a shit about the European Cup when it first started. Treated it much like they later treated the Club World Cup. That all changed within ten years. Similar to how England didn’t take the World Cup that seriously either when it was first conceived. Snobbery mostly.

The teams mentioned are heavyweights and certainly enough to force other big clubs otherwise opposed to join them if it goes ahead.

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I will always support my team, but I will never support this stupid super league I will be very angry with the owners. After all the goodwill to the supporters and money they put into the club back into to the top will be in vain.

I applaud Bayern Munich and some of the French clubs rejected this ridiculous idea.

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They still shafted the Football League.

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I bet a significant majority of the fans currently kicking off at FSG for being money grabbing cunts, will also be tweeting John Henry as soon as the Summer window opens calling FSG penny pinching cunts.

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I seriously suspect that their intentions are any benevolent. Maybe just playing the waiting game.

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Did anyone kick off like this when the European Cup became the Champions League? Or was that OK because the money grabbing was UEFA?

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Football league shafted itself for a long time, and it’s the same six clubs more or less.

If you want to watch Liverpool play 18 games against the same sides with the potential for a season to be over after 9 games season in season out then that’s fine.

Go ahead knock yourself out

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Its a grim thought but I don’t blame FSG really. Its not a super league without us so what are the owners going to do, say no? How would we feel as fans if they took the moral high ground and stepped away and it actually happened leaving us playing in a second rate domestic league and european competition and having our players poached every summer?

I don’t see it happening though. I think a compromise will be reached whereby there’s more certainty for the top clubs with their places in the CL rather than a breakaway tournament. Realistically most of the none top tier league qualifiers offer very little than just being group whipping boys anyway. Domestic and UEFA tournaments can’t afford to lose those clubs and I doubt the clubs really want to leave them.

Completely unedifying but I’d rather be in the conversation than on the outside looking in.

As for Gary Neville and his little rant. He was more than happy to make millions from the PL breaking away from the Football League. He was delighted to be part of the CL as it introduced lucrative group formats, coefficients and more qualifying places for top leagues so more than the champions could be part of it. And he’s been more than willing to be on the payroll of the biggest player in the growth of TV revenue and almost a monopoly holder up until a few years ago that dictate kick off times based on their viewing audience rather than match going fans. But this step is apparently too far despite the seeds for it having been sown way back and him having made millions from each and every part of it. Fucking dick.

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That’s not what’s being suggested. At all.

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