Those jammy fuckers down the M62

Mudryk is 3x the player Antony is and Mudryk is shit.

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Cultural as everyone says.

Probably not a good thing to do training as we always have treatment but yeah.

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The headline.

The picture.

The whole thing just works.

Fucking hell, forgot he was there. He would have probably scored against us in the final.

Yeah theyā€™ve dug their own grave. Just terrible policy on transfers and contracts, theyā€™ve assembled a squad of overpaid shit players, and brought in a manager that appears to be clueless.

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Wouldnā€™t mind it. Go for it, Jim.

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Zidane isnā€™t arsed about managing anymore, I donā€™t think. Heā€™s said many times that he has no interest in the PL - he doesnā€™t speak English and canā€™t be arsed to learn it.

Also, his only experience is taking over a very strong Real Madrid side - albeit he led them to 3 consecutive European Cups - but Iā€™m not sure he has what it takes to take over a squad full of overpriced dross, install a scalable, repeatable play style that can win games while rebuilding the squad, then manage the squad to winning major trophies.

And thatā€™s probably the best thing about the position theyā€™re in. FFP/P&S rules mean they canā€™t just spend silly money on big name players anymore, they have to be clever in the transfer market while also appeasing their dickhead fans. Any manager will come in knowing that the fans have no patience despite it being one of the most difficult jobs imaginable now. Top/proven managers wonā€™t want to waste their time on a project of that scale.

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I think he will manage again, but of course he doesnā€™t have to go anywhere. Plus, heā€™s obviously not wanted as someone like Pep is. Maybe France down the line, a French club or Juve or another go at Real.

Precisely, McTominay is not a world beater, but he is also not the cause of their problems. He is never going to be a key starter in a CL side, but in a squad put together to compete at that level he is a more than useful supplement. Itā€™s definitely right to argue his goals can give the impression to people who arenā€™t paying much attention that he is a better player than he actually is, but arguing that doesnā€™t mean you have to overly criticize him. In a squad put together to compete for the CL places he is still a player who can be used in 20-30 games a season as the situation requires. Given the scope of the rebuild and the fact he can do 6-7 out of 10 jobs in 2-3 positions he is exactly the sort of player you keep around through the rebuild.

The challenge for Utd will be if someone like Moyes starts over rating him and tries to buy him for more than heā€™s worth. The way for Utd to fuck that situation up would be to replicate their situation with Rashford where they are so intent on showing the fans they understand the importance of ā€œUtd DNAā€ that they overpay to keep himā€¦so expect a 300k a week contract to be put on the table for him this summer.

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I reject the premise that McTominay can do ā€œ6-7 out of 10 jobs in 2-3 positionsā€, and I think this is where my main disagreement is here. McTominayā€™s average performance is closer to a 3-4 out of 10, regardless where he plays on the pitch. Heā€™s not a PL or CL level footballer and never will be.

He can play in the PL, letā€™s not exaggerate. Heā€™s not that bad.

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Mubbsy was born for this threadā€¦

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Please actually watch a few Man United games. Heā€™s always one of the worst players on the pitch. Never shows for the ball, canā€™t pass, canā€™t press, isnā€™t press-resistant, has no brain, just always wants to bomb forward (vacating his position in the formation) so that he can be in the box when the ball is sent into the mixer by Bruno. Thatā€™s why heā€™s always there with a scruffy goal or two - because heā€™s not performing his actual role on the pitch.

Itā€™s mental that people think heā€™s somehow a serviceable part of a team that wants to challenge for top honors, or even just the CL places. Heā€™s a net negative to the squad.

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There are a lot of levels and layers between being a squaddie for a side that wants to compete and win and not being a PL footballer. Which he is for a good few years now. Yet we have Nat Phillips on a contract until heā€™s 28.

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Iā€™d argue that Nat Phillips isnā€™t PL level, and we only have him on the books for emergencies. Otherwise he gets nowhere near the PL playing squad.

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Tis a bit rich them calling others pointless.

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Heā€™s easy to mock precisely because he isnt the level you expect Utd to build their team around yet has been more prominent than most of their so called star players. But that doesnt mean he is their problem. He, like Fred, is often the ligntening rod for the rest of the team not performing. Letā€™s remember for all the mockery Fred got, he still got 30 caps for Brazil in an era where they were not lacking for CMs of his type.

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