UK Politics Thread (Part 2)

The entire country has been bullied by the Tories for years. They should resign en masse and pay for counselling for the whole population.

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I would say the rule breaking was no better or worse than other countries. What wasnt was the lack of consistency by the government - eat out to help out, constantly telling the public to make their own rules but ā€œbe responsibleā€. Whatever that means in a pandemic. And the only reason to say that is so they didnā€™t have to take responsibility themselves. So of course people were confused. The only thing the government was consistent at was being a clusterfuck.

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If you ignore a lot of countries. For example France!

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Flobs having family living in France I know you actually needed paperwork to leave your house/leave your town. This is the point. The French government put in such tight restrictions that you couldnā€™t make the mistake of heading to the beach or the Tour Eiffel.

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Itā€™s not the point though. Even in the quartiers they stayed in their appartements and even made videos of it, shouting obsenities at each other from afar. I can assure you they wouldnā€™t give a poop about a piece of paper.
The point is the sense of community, thereā€™s a horde of upper middle class tossers in the UK ā€˜neo Libertariansā€™ who feel they are above the law. Read the letters page in the Torygraph.
The problem in the UK isnā€™t just a tory government itā€™s also the tossers who voted them in over all these years!

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Itā€™s mainly the fault of the billionaires who both dictate government policy and brainwash the public into accepting it through their ownership of the media.

It is the neoliberal elite that is responsible for the widespread adoption of the philosophy of individualism and selfishness that has taken hold over the last forty-odd years.

People should be livid at the very existence of such riches and the inequality in our societies. Instead, through the deification of wealth, we are supposed to be in awe of the rich and the poor are seen as unworthy or lazy.

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Is this the one that hurts renewables more than fossils?

If itā€™s based on profits it doesnā€™t ā€œhurtā€ the renewables more but they have to pay comparatively more because their profits are higher as their inputs are effectively free.

There is a certain logic that it could help the sector if they push the profits back into new installations but I donā€™t know how they are planning to implement it.

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Think we all know by now that the answer is, the Tories donā€™t care.

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The other side effect of this is that not only has the cost of housing the most vulnerable in society grown exponentially, it also has the effect of funnel more of our national wealth into the hands of wealthy private individuals.

When I was a kid we grew up in a council house. Every fortnight my mum went to the council offices and paid her small rent to the local authority. That was then their money and income.

If we were doing the same now, we would be referred to a local authority housing association, and placed in a private landlord owned property, the rent would be at market rate and outside our ability to pay, so the council would be paying it in the form of housing benefit. So instead of drawing an income from itā€™s housing stock, Local Authorities are now paying through the nose to put people in housing it actually used to own until Thatcherā€™s Right To Buy scheme (something like 2/3s of housing purchased under that scheme ended up in the hands of private landlords).

Itā€™s hard to put the genie back in the bottle, but a good place to start would be to mend our tax system by instead of taxing income or consumption at the levels we do, we need to tax wealth. Income derived from assets, land and property should be taxed until the pips squeak. Owning anything like a property portfolio should be deeply uncomfortable financially.

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A gap has opened in the supply of housing stock,that gap has been created by lack of funding from successive governments who should be building houses for people .Theyā€™re not doing that at a level any way near enough and no where near the levels they were doing in the past.

Thereā€™s plenty of housing in this country. The problem is that it is concentrated in too few hands.

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I agree with your 2nd line.Governments should do something about that and start building houses as they used to and stop putting private house builds into their quotas as if they have built them themselves .Let developers build homes for those who can afford them and government should get on with building social and affordable housing for those who canā€™t afford the higher prices .Thatā€™s what the done in our parents time but slowed down/stopped a long time ago which has now led to the issues we have were vulture and cuckoo funds pay very little tax but control both rental and house prices because they own so much of the market .
Governments should water down the market by building affordable homes.

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Fuck me!
Is that a licence to kill?
Itā€™s clearly a ā€˜get out of there as quickly as possibleā€™!
Also patients can go to hell!
ā€¦ and no reason given for it ā€¦

Whatā€™s really desturbing is the way regulatory bodies are mentionned. Surely they can not speak for them (and they try not to) however they infer collusion, thatā€™s very dangerous and not their job. Thatā€™s for the government to decide!

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