UK Politics Thread (Part 3)

Yeah difficult but I decided to watch on after I heard the guest was knowledgeable on UK transport. I’m bucking the trend by trying to pay attention to SME’s. :wink:

I’m sure some of the conversation had some political opinion added but there was a few items in there that caught my attention.

  1. Southern leg cost increases through NIMBY objections.
  2. The discussion on capacity (already covered here I note)
  3. Possible comparison on ancient woodland discussion
  4. Freeing up cash for pre election tax breaks. (lets be honest that’s what’s driving this ultimately)

and so on.

I’ve seen that claim, but I haven’t made it here because I don’t have any solid evidence that suggests that this is a key reason for the ballooned costs.

I wonder who will buy the land?

His Tory pals who can then sell it back at a higher cost when another goverment wants to restart HS2?

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Understandable but it is the bit that’s currently under construction so has gone through the design process and whatever level of “titivation” has happened on that section. is it the sole reason? Absolutely not, the cost increases for materials for example. What we haven’t seen and wont is the Risk Register that will exist for the northern leg an whether the project is still exposed to some severe potential cost increases going forward.

Still though, based on the video and the discussions above it seems an incredibly short sighted decision which is yet again London centric, political, and in my opinion, just plain stupid.

That’s the worst part. It’s not even London-centric. It’s unlikely to go to Euston unless private funding can be found, apparently.

It’s essentially whatever a desperate failing government can do to prove that they’re “on the side of the motorists” and “against all this woke green crap”.

EDIT: To source my claim above, I have HS2 will not extend to Euston without private funding | HS2 | The Guardian

It seems that they’re also planning to redevelop the land around Euston as flats, therefore permanently handicapping any future expansion of the station.

It really just makes no sense, except that Sunak really hates rail transport for whatever reason.

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Yeah, Sunak clearly doesn’t “do” trains. See my post in the Climate thread.

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Let them use helicopters

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I really cannot believe our leaders have not been dragged out a la Mussolini. They are a complete disgrace and Sunak is the epitome. There is not one eligible leader for PM in the entire House.

You have to be middle class to take the train these days. The working class take buses.

Sunak is (literally) above all that though.

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Brit forced to sell their £1.5m home to be bulldozed for HS2 - just 24 hours before Sunak scrapped project

Story by Holly Bishop •1h

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Ahomeowner was made to give up their £1.5million property to HS2, less than 24 hours before the northern leg of the project was scrapped by Rishi Sunak.

The property in Staffordshire is understood to have had a deal finalised on it on Tuesday afternoon.

“We exchanged contracts on a property in Staffordshire on Tuesday for well over a million and a half," a property agent told the i.

Compulsory purchase orders (CPOs) had been given out to certain estates along the proposed rail lines.

WATCH NOW: Sunak scraps Manchester leg of HS2

It has been reported that £600million has been spent on buying property along the northern leg of the line.

These orders meant that HS2 could obtain land or property without the consent of the owner.

However, now the northern leg fromBirmingham to Manchester has been scrapped, these homes will now long be required.

The Department for Transport (DfT) will still have to pay millions of pounds for CPOs that were already in negotiation before Sunak announced its cancellation at the Tory Party conference on Wednesday.

Yesterday, it was reported that Sunak’s Government had not instructed HS2 managers to cease acquiring CPOS.

DfT have also not begun to select a method for selling the now obsolete properties they purchased, it is understood.

A spokeswoman for HS2 said: “We have no instructions from Government yet. In the paper they issued yesterday [Wednesday] it says that Phase 2a safeguarding will be formally lifted in weeks and Phase 2B safeguarding will be amended by summer next year.”

They should be able to buy it back :grimacing: yes the government plans to sell the land they’ve purchased basically ruling out any future government from completing the project, in the short term at least.

Pretty fucking speechless to be honest.

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I smell bullshit on this story. Was second story on the BBC, amazing coincidence.

It does stank of sensationalism, I have advised on these rules, the Gov will be under a duty to offer those properties back, save for exceptional circumstances.

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Backpedalling already, what a surprise?

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‘Covid corruption commissioner’ would seek to recoup lost billions, says Labour

Story by Pippa Crerar Political editor •3h

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ALabour government would create a powerful Covid corruption commissioner to help recoup billions of pounds of taxpayers’ money that has been lost to waste, fraud and flawed contracts during the pandemic, Rachel Reeves is to announce.

The new commissioner would be given the power to bring together public agencies including HMRC, the Serious Fraud Office and the National Crime Agency to pursue at least £2.6bn of “lost” public funds. They would examine contracts line by line and would have to update parliament on their progress in clawing back money.

An estimated £7.2bn was lost in fraud from Covid support schemes including from business loans and grants, furlough and “eat out to help out”, although the figure could be as high as £10.8bn, according to the House of Commons library. Labour believes a lower estimate of £4.7bn could be achieved if losses are contained.

In her conference speech in Liverpool on Monday, Reeves will announce that Labour would review sentencing on fraud and corruption conducted against UK public services, as well as reform public procurement rules to include a strong “debarment and exclusion” regime for those complicit in fraud against the state.

There would also be more robust oversight of public grant and loan schemes in future with counter-fraud experts, data management and analytics all involved to prevent financial losses.

“The cost to the taxpayer of Covid fraud is estimated at £7.2bn with every one of those cheques signed by Rishi Sunak as chancellor and yet just 2% of fraudulent Covid grants have been recovered,” Reeves will say.

“We will appoint a Covid corruption commissioner equipped with the powers they need and the mandate to do what it takes to chase those who have ripped off the taxpayer, taking them to court and clawing back every penny of taxpayers money that they can. That money belongs in our NHS, it belongs in our schools, it belongs in our police and conference – we want that money back.”

During the pandemic the government suspended its usual procurement processes and introduced a highly secretive VIP “fast lane” for procurement of goods including protective equipment. It later wrote off £8.7bn it had spent on defective or overpriced PPE.

Jolyon Maugham, the founder of the Good Law Project campaign group, said: “The scale of PPE waste and corruption is sickening: over £10bn lost; more than four in every five pounds spent. If you’re serious about looking after public money – yours and mine – you want those billions back. Recovering them starts with political will. Until now that has been sorely lacking – so this is a very positive development.”

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Doctors and nurses will volunteer for weekend work to bring down waiting lists if they are paid more overtime, Sir Keir Starmer has told the BBC.

Will they?

In terms of incentivizing good health and habits, to try to reduce the need to pay out for the cost of avoidable treatment, my health insurance plan here in the States has had an interesting feature the past couple of years.

It includes a free gym membership, for the whole family, to any gym around here.

I like that way around of trying to tackle the problem.

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Coupled with a leg tag which sends an electric shock if you enter a KFC

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I had something similar on my German health insurance after my leg operation. It was 3 months worth but this coincided with the gyms being closed down during Covid.

I like the idea of it being a family thing rather than just one individual, though. That sounds like a proper lifestyle modifier.

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