And waited up to 3 weeks where too many people are trying to see too few GP’s?
Ah cool, you’re ok Jack
Two big factors here is that there is a steadily ageing population that typically requires more GP appointments and a falling number of GPs - at least in terms of partners. There are now more salaried GPs but they will tend to work fewer hours.
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On paper that definition is sound and there are indeed plenty of people in this world who falls into that definition but due to politicking and lobbying, how to verify that fact is a challenge. For Singaporean, our classic case is Amos Yee who claimed asylum in USA and people lobbying to grant him that and he got it to our amusement and he is now causing a mini mess over there (not that he could cause more than the US is), convicted paedophile and so on and we are happy to leave him there.
But I like to believe these are exceptions and true asylum seekers should get the help they need.
No, I don’t - as I said there is a proper asylum system in place, its just been under resourced. However, Labour upon taking up government have put some extra money there and as @WeeJoe has said it is having a positive effect on the backlog. No doubt more needs to be done but its a step in the right direction
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Excellent post.
They’re not polling at 30%, you might be confusing Bundesländer, mainly East German ones, with the federal government. They’re currently at 16-19% in federal polls. As it stands that’s no realistic basis of ousting all the other parties out of power, particularly with the kind of voting system we have.
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Factually incorrect though.
Potentially anyone but you’d be hard pushed to have a successful claim for updating documents or trying to run from persecution in the Uk.
Which comes back to the point of assessing claims. It needs to happen, the quicker the better.
Also by building safe routes you can more easily establish where someone has come from. Safe routes are awkward though. You’re not getting an agreement with the Sudanese government for safe routes any day.
Its ultinately about agreements and resources. The process exists, it needs to be followed. Agreements with France and other EU countries on initial processing centres, safe routes etc. You stop the boats by removing the business.
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I keep coming back to the fundamental point…
More than enough dollarbucks sloshing around to put roofs over everyone’s head, food on their table, and to get them into the GP quicksticks.
Did have to wait over a week for my last GP appointment, too, from memory.
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Some of those asylum seekers might be doctors, too.
They could do doctoring here!!!
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You mean, it would be politically prudent to just ignore the issue that the right-wing rags have been going on and on and on about for the last few years?
Factually incorrect, as @RedWhippet has already pointe dout.
You mean the rise based on sensationalised stories that turn out to have little bearing in truth and are often manufactured precisely for their outrage values? You ignore the fact that the “problems” regarding immigration are constantly blown out of proportion or even manufactured (see the asylum system backlog) to create precisely that kind of perception to keep or get right-wing parties in power.
And finally, given the demographics of many European countries, increased immigration volumes are actually beneficial for them, especially if the support systems are there for the very people who want to get their lives going.
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NHS waiting lists are at 7 million. Now maybe if every single asylum seeker that arrived last year (remember we’re only talking about those that arrived on boats) was in need of treatment it still doesnt dent that.
Maybe we need more doctors?
Maybe that’s the question @Dane should be asking?
Where are the doctors?
Nearly went full Delia then.
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Well known fact you can’t use prison figures to stereotype…
Labour Party’s biggest financial backer.
Outrageous waste. Lock 'em up.
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There are valid arguments on both sides. The UK has chronically underfunded NHS, schools, infrastructure etc while population has gone up. Many is the systems are at breaking point.
However refugees, asylum seekers and illegal migrations are minor compared to legal migration (an astonishing 1.2M people a year)
It’s a whole bait and switch game. Let’s blame the 30K that arrived on a boat, blame them for a lack of social housing, blame them for not being able to see a GP. While at the same time giving out visas to 1,2M people…… this is something the UK has full control over. They can’t blame the EU.
My cynical perspective is that it’s all a game of money. The UK has wanted high migration. It boosts GDP of a failing economy.Those migrants are a net positive effect even if they add further strain on the system. Austerity concurrently has meant they have also needed someone blame. Those arriving on boats are easy targets.
Those politicians have been standing on a platform of anti-immigration publicity, but all the while supporting it all along
Every year approx 0.5M leave the UK. If it wanted the UK could have 0 net migration. Taking in its share of refugees at the the same time giving visas to the best people where there are skills shortages (doctors, nurses, engineers etc). The other side of the coin is the UK needs huge investment into infrastructure and services (houses, gps, schools) so that people at not angry about the basics not working or failing.
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I’m pretty sure the NHS has been at breaking point every other week for the past 30 years.
If they were allowed to work. That’s the stupidest part of the UK approach. Highly skilled people that could be helping with NHS waiting lists (and other professions where there is a shortage) but aren’t allowed to work until they receive refugee status. Which the Tories weren’t processing, intentionally compounding both issues.
According to the refugee council:
‘About 1,200 medically qualified refugees are recorded on the British Medical Association’s database. It is estimated that it costs around £25,000 to support a refugee doctor to practise in the UK. Training a new doctor is estimated to cost between £200,000 and £250,000’
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Try not to steal @Rambler’s thunder…
This will surely make @gasband happy…
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