UK Politics Thread (Part 4)

Fucking hell!! Bending over already!!

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Throwing children’s online safety in the bin to please Trump and Musk. He’s a fucking scumbag and a coward. At least some of us have been consistent in calling this

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I’m finding this Labour government increasingly difficult to support.

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FIFY

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Imagine thinking things would be different.

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What a coward and a loser.

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But, but, they’re not all the same :roll_eyes:

He’s a fucking snake, and drifting towards being on a par with Thatcher

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Very disappointed in him

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I cant support it but when its revealed that someone is getting a back hander from stuff like this then I’ll agree with you.

Otherwise, increasingly disappointed in the direction they are taking the UK.

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On this particular issue, it’s also quite naĆÆve at best, and downright idiotic otherwise.

In general, if you kowtow to bullies, they’ll just keep walking over you.

But beyond that, this is quite clearly an administration where not only does truth not matter, there’s also no such thing as keeping one’s promises. It’s not just the head but the entire government is like that. So I don’t know why they think it’ll make a difference.

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I want to know what he’s afraid of?

We’re still fucked its just a question on whether we go down with our head up Trumps arse or not.

I’d prefer not to.

Also, there will come a point where Trumps idiocy will get scaled back or reversed. Dont sell yourself now

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Is it really that difficult to figure out? Have a look at the financial impact on UK firms, and the hit to economic growth being forecast as a reault of the tariffs - BBC or Sky reported that 20% tariffs would wipe out the chancellors headroom she has only just given herself after the spring statement.

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But the global financial meltdown is happening anyway.

I’m not advocating going full hog with reciprocal tariffs, although it should be considered, but bending over like this is not the answer either imo. Deregulating GDPR and giving access to Musk in particular is scary. And you know my position on tax breaks for billionaires.

It shows where the real power lies, and why everything is falling apart.

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It remains to be seen what the wider impact will be - other countries are negotiating with the US over the tariffs, and the UK needs to remain competitive enough during this term to at least allow Labour a chance at funding the changes it is trying to make

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The 2% levy is about £800m. Uk exports to US is worth about £180bn.

Agreed but opening the door to more of the same that has caused the mess in the first place gets problematic pretty quick. Once the door is opened etc. Cameron knows that all too well promising a referendum just so he could be PM.

There has to be another way than bowing down to Musk and potentially allowing him access to peoples data. Finances aside, it’s dangerous.

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There has been no suggestion that the UK government is planning anything remotely like that - more likely, the opposite. The government was due to announce its new industrial strategy later this summer, it’s looking like it will be wanting to be more interventionist in the economy, not less.

Nothing I have seen suggests anything close to this. The online safety bill is about putting a legal duty on companies over what kids can access online.

With the UK pushing to use AI as one its growth drivers, it is going to be susceptible to push back on changes to the digital space.

The proposals are great but reigning them back because Vance says itsxabout free speech is garbage. And we all know Musk is up to his eyeballs on this, keeping X exactly the cesspit it is with zero accountability.

Any sniff that they intend to soften that up at the ā€œrequestā€ of these people i believe is wrong.

Even now as Trump does another U turn that seed has been sown.

Sure, but Starmer doesnt have the luxury of doing nothing, in the hope the tariffs never get brought in.

No agreed. I was going to say that Trump is unpredictable but in reality he isnt. He’s 100% predictably unhinged.

It just really feels wrong to me thats all. I’d even guess they were both asking and were pushing for it.

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