The most remarkable thing about that clip for me is that as recently as 2001 it was so easy to assault the Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.
Had a row with my aunt about this (Labour MP) at the time. My stance: “That’s a person who could potentially have his hand on the nuke button and his first instinct when threatened is to lash out full tilt”
Her “Well it could have been anything he was hit with”
Me “Wasn’t a baseball bat though was it”
My comment is in response to Noo_Noo misquoting me, followed by a hurrah from the usual crowd. I didn’t say putting up taxes up on the ‘working person’, but the response suggested I did.
Again, this was in response to Noo_Noo reiterating my original point.
You will also find that I have clearly stated (at least twice) that I understand why Reeves may have had to raise taxes for exactly the same reasons you have repeated.
“This is not ideal”, really?? So Labour raises NI on Employers and the OBR comes back saying that their estimates, forecast three quarters of the costs falling on the employee -or in Labour terms ‘the working person’. And your response is that it is not ideal? And follow it up by laying the blame on the employers!
I’m not sure I understand the point you are making. Could you explain please . This is a genuine request.
The point I was trying to make if you take into context the other points I raised is that, there has been a lot of scrutiny about the ambiguity of the statement Labour made about raising NI, Taxes, etc.
The Tories advised, that Labour - in their manifesto - had only ruled out NI rises to the employee. Furthermore, Rachel Reeves [told Sky News] on 28 May: “For the duration of the next parliament there will be no increases in income tax and national insurance.” This is misleading, is it not? If it was the Tories, you would all be in uproar, Stealth tax, hitting the poor, people having less money and yet all you can say is that it is not ideal.
This leads me full circle to the original, original point, made to @redfanman where I suggested/stated that ‘Leave’ did not have a mandate, so that did not have the power to implement any of their statements, they were not in Goverment - fact. Ironically, the PM, who was pushing for ‘Remain’ - the slim ball David Cameron - told the biggest lie to all of us by saying he would stay on and carry out the wishes of the “Public Vote” if it was to Leave.
And that additionally, contrary to the common perception held here, lying, speculation, over promising, misconduct is not a one party problem.
You must allow people to voice their suspicions and speculations on a forum though, I think. We are sitting here, debating most things in this world, from football to politics and everything in between. I don’t think it’s truly fair to “arrest” anyone for speculating. If they are malicious, cruel in their specultions then that is very, very different, but to voice a suspicion that it could be terror related is just something people will do; I think. I personally doubt it was terror related, he doesn’t seem to fit the profile of a young jihadi and I suspect he was more interested in generally hurting/killing people. But I speculate too, not knowing enough like most of us.
On the other hand, I realise the special situation in the UK where you actually had actual race riots when blood was up after the murders, but I think enough time has now passed for spontanious rage and race riots to be less of an issue.
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