Remain originally i think.
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No, actually, it was to underline the basic point, which is that:
It didnāt try to pull you up on something you didnāt say, it was simply correcting your claim. Thatās what I mean by the chip on your shoulder.
If I said that Salah now has 22 goals/assists in all competitions for us this season, I wouldnāt complain when someone corrected me to say that 2 of those were for Egypt.
The Football Governance Bill has itās second reading in the House of Lords this week.
The bill originated with the last Government, and proposes that Nation States are prohibited from owning football clubs, and the human rights record of prospective owners is considered in decision making.
However Labour have removed a section (that the Tories had included) that stated that the regulator must take into account the Governmentās foreign policy objectives when considering prospective owners.
So, once more with feeling, they are all the same as each other.
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Just watched a Discovery documentary where a bloke was convicted of the murder of a 15 year old school girl.
The evidence was overwhelming, and the killer pleaded guilty.
He got life, with a minimum term of 27 years.
His lawyers appealed the sentence, and it was reduced to 23 years, because, wait for it, her left that poor girls mutilated body where it could easily be found.
Fucking gobsmacked.
What kind of fucked up justice system allows this?
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This is becoming tedious.
Your original post suggests clearly states differently.
Anyhow, as I have said, letās draw a line under it.
I am still waiting on your answerā¦ s (Iām not being serious).
In regards, to the biggest lie comment. There was indeed a lot of false information, speculation, and Iām not going to get into a tit for tat about it. However, whether you like it or not both sides were guilty of it.
One of the few thingās that was certain - as it came from his own lips during the debates - was that DC said, on numerous occasions that he would stay on and oversee Brexit, if that was what the public voted for.
DC was the PM, he used the referendum vote as part of his re-election campaign pledge. He believed it would never happen and when it did he jumped ship, left the country in a mess and made money on the back of it by releasing his Memoirs.
So, yes, I do think it was the biggest lie of the whole Brexit debacle. Because it wasnāt based on speculation, it was something that he, our PM, stated and had a degree of control over. If he got challenged, and lost, then at least he could say he was willing to honour his commitment.
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A Tory lied?
Donāt believe you.
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Sorry to sound like a broken record, again.
ALL politicians lie.
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But some donāt see football as a means of furthering foreign policy objectives.
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But itās not especially useful as whataboutery
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Pointing out that all politicians lie (yes humans do too) is only classed as whataboutery by people who dont want to believe that their chosen brand of politicians also lie.
I donāt have a problem with the idea that all politicians lie. I have a problem with the idea that they are all the same as each other. Like Iād have a problem with the idea that someone who has stepped on a dog turd and someone who has stepped on a land mine have both had an equally shit day.
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Surely by definition the former has had a shittier day?
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Agree with this.
Quick, mark the calendar
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Human beings lie, we all do. I defy anyone on here to claim that they have never lied.
Thereās a difference between small, inconsequential lies that we tell about how many glasses of wine we drank last night, or whether we really read that work email all the way through, and lies which cause danger to others or which incite hate.
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I think there is also a question around whether something is a lie, or whether itās a change of policy because of the position you find yourself in.
Two of the most egregious lies told to the British Public. The leave campaignās continual assertions throughout the Brexit Campaign. They knew they were lying. They carried on. Blair assertions around Iraqās weapons capability, and taking us to war on that basis. He was lying and he knew it was nonsense.
I genuinely think a lot of the accusations of lying that get thrown around in politics are not lies. A lot of it is not being able to do what you said you wanted to do, because of what you are dealing with.
And a lot of the time politicians canāt be truthful because the public are thick as fuck and canāt make good decisions.
The completely truthful Labour message to the public in the run up to the election should have been we canāt make any promises because we think the countries finances have been devastated, weāre probably going to have to cut shit, and weāll probably have to put taxes up. Itās going to get worse before it gets better.
I donāt think they are getting in power.
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Damn, knew it wouldnt last 
Labour, and the Tories before them, said theyād do things (or not) that they had no intention of seeing through.
Itās all a game to all of them, say the right things to get the votes, then deal with the fallout once in power
Fucking hell, break out the pot noodles
Edit. Put it back in the cupboard
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You absolutely can! I know of plenty of Asian gammons.
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To what end?
I think there is a world of difference between lying to get in power when your intentions are to do good once there and you think thatās the only way to convince people to not vote against their own interests, and lying to get in power so you can feather your own nest once there.
That I think is the difference between Labour and the Tories.
Weāve just seen record numbers of people vote for Reform, despite them having an economic and social agenda that would devastate them. Honesty in politics is not going to get you anywhere.