UK Politics Thread (Part 4)

This surprises me. Doesnt the school stand to get more funding?

Is there a cost to the school in making the referral?

Yes but not before secondary school in Wales at least.

We had zero option other than private. Dyslexia is the issue for us, although there may be a ADHD element too. Making things worse, assessment could not be done until he was 10 years old.

In a similar vein to yourself his school have been dismissive because he isnt disruptive. The assessment put him up to 2 years behind in certain aspects and the current school response is ā€œhe isnt that badā€.

Thankfully Iā€™m hearing thereā€™s good support in secondary school but Iā€™m deeply frustrated that weā€™re already on the back foot. We are also considering some additional tutoring. Weā€™ll have to find the money.

Itā€™s fine and thanks. I just think their should be better mechanisms in place for reviewing kids etc.

Happy to debate how stuff is handled post assessment but my little one has real interests in STEM subjects. To me it doesnt feel right that he potentially loses out on opportunities along these lines because he struggles with stuff and has been hung out to dry because the systems to identify dyslexia are not in place and we couldnt get an assessment.

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Itā€™s almost makes you want to tell your kids to start acting up if thatā€™s what it takesā€¦

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Having been down that roadā€¦be careful what you wish for.

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I dont think kicking off helps.

Part of the issue is that all kids are struggling, the teachers are struggling, the schools are all struggling and behind and then throw this on top thereā€™s no chance. Thereā€™s no capacity and off the back of that very little will among the staff to tackle it. Plenty of people in school assessment roles looking down though.

So all the kids are behind and any that are struggling for other reasons or lagging a bit behind the school mean are just left to it. I have some sympathy but Iā€™m also angered.

Ultimately, its the age old funding and resources issue again. Itā€™s also perverse that as @Klopptimist sats thereā€™s additional funding available for children with learning difficulties yet schools seem to be totally unable or unwilling to chase cases unless they have been confirmed via the social care system or whatever.

Money money money. The school will do little until thereā€™s funding. Theyā€™re there to teach kids who will sit down, mostly shut up and learn. Beyond that they just donā€™t have the resources and I speak as Finance Chair of a primary school.

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yep, im even happy with a level of unequal funding because there are definately needy people in the state systemā€¦but to cut all funding, or skew the ratio too much, it would end in disasterā€¦

More importantly it would be unfair.

I live in Birmingham and the councils finance control is shocking. Birmingham City Council, lost a court case about equal pay many moons ago, sold the National Exhibition Centre, ICC, Genting Arena and the Barclay card arena for Ā£1.1bn to cover the bill but apparently they still owe money and no one knows how much. I think I read somewhere that they were using the same system as the Post Office.
I can imagine it is replicated across many local councils, as your link highlights.

I quoted your exact words.

How???
Iā€™m not arguing, Iā€™m debating and giving an alternative opinion to your views. If thatā€™s infuriating you then give your ā€œhead a wobbleā€. Do you think that you donā€™t infuriate me? I am happy to stop debating with you as you cannot accept being challenged. @redfanman corrected me yesterday and I acknowledged that.
However, when you canā€™t answer you move the point to put a change on the rhetoric of the conversation. Suggesting you ignore me, calling me a Strawman and asking @redalways ā€œwhatā€™s his excuse thenā€ is all signs of someone who doesnā€™t like to be challenged, trying to shut down an opinion/voice, that may actually have (not stating) a more balanced view than the Echo chamber you like to live in.

Thank you for correcting me. We wonā€™t go into the reasons as to why austerity measures had to be made. :+1:t2: I accept bad decisions were made, some may argue were forced into.

See, you do have some good points :+1:t2:

Sure, there was a problem with the public finances because of the 2008 crash but we were working our way out if it. Labour were finished back then so the tories came in and basically shut everything down, shtunk everything and ripped the heart out if it all and as a result really didnt achieve much.

Weā€™re still suffering from decisions made back then. It was a choice and not a forced one. Valid perhaps but clearly didnt work in restoring health to the economy. We actually lost far far more than we gained from it. Brexit rose from this decision.

Yes, but thereā€™s nothing where I said anything like what you have said.

No you arenā€™t.

Youā€™ve twice said words to the effect that I hate all farmers and think everyone who sends their kids to private school is offshoring wealth levels of rich

I have never said this. Iā€™ve corrected you and you still persist with this strawman.

This isnā€™t wanting an echo chamber. It just expecting the basic courtesy that if you want to challenge my views, you at least represent those views fairly. As @redalways is also finding, this seems to be a trend.

If you canā€™t or wonā€™t do that, and you donā€™t seem to want to, there is no point continuing.

That isnā€™t helpful.