UK Politics Thread (Part 4)

Not all routes are like that though, I’ve personally never come across a route where breaking it down was cheaper, but then again I mostly start/end in London.

Perhaps, but also isn’t that an argument for why the rail ticketing system should be rebooted?

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It’s good that you were able to do that, but as above, that’s not always possible.

I’ve read many times from various studies that UK rail travel is at the very pointy end in terms of expense when conpared to Europe.

The UK ain’t that big, a properly integrated and affordable mass transit system would go a long way to helping the joint out of the doldrums.

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Dont get me started on our motorway and road system.

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I think a bigger issue is its lack of reliability, and scope. North West and East isn’t particularly well connected for purposes of shipping and exports from what I remember.

Also, regular train delays or cancellations can make journeys a bit of a gamble some times.

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Yeah, it is crazy that it can (usually is?) be cheaper to fly.

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Depends. My experience with Advance tickets is that it tends to be cheaper than flying, especially when you factor in costs of getting to airports.

Any other tickets though…

Hard to argue with this.

(waits for the “why shouldn’t my children benefit from my hard work” line)

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She is absolutely right. We should be targeting wealth rather than income. Unearned wealth should be taxed until the pips squeak.

But unfortunately the realpolitik is that it’s much easier said than done.

The problem with the obscenely wealthy is that not only do they have all money, they also control the media, and therefore the narrative.

Look how they have managed to spin a cock and bull story about the farm inheritance tax to the extent poor people are actually criticising Labour for taxing people inheriting three million pound farms at half the rate that anyone else pays in inheritance tax.

Labour need to step up though, and make it absolutely clear who’s side they are on. They need to crest a new narrative about wealth and funding public services, because oh look. What’s this coming over the hill? It’s Nigel Farage with £80m quid of Incel Rocket bellend’s money to spend on becoming PM. If you think Truss’s economics were insane, you need to see what Nigel has in store.

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The council tax on my house is more than Buckingham Palace. For fucks sake.

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You’ll get it from me! Bangs head against brick wall. Again.

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The money runs the media, the media manipulate the voters, politics is all rigged.

That’s true right up to the point where Starmer is currently on TV in this pub (yeah, day off!) pretending to be the PM talking shite about all the stuff he’s going to fail at.

Who do you think I had in mind while I was typing that? :joy:

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Sydney Sweeny? She lives in my head :joy:

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Whichever way we turn, we’re fucked.
They’re all toxic self serving cunts

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Except Joe Biden, thoroughly upstanding human who absolutely respects judicial process.

So Starmer’s plan is:

  • Putting more money in the pockets of working people
  • Building 1.5m homes and fast-tracking planning decisions on at least 150 major infrastructure projects
  • Treating 92 percent of NHS patients within 18 weeks
  • Recruiting 13,000 more police officers, special constables and PCSOs in neighbourhood roles
  • Making sure three-quarters of five year olds are school-ready
  • 95% clean power by 2030

Vague
Council tax
Shooting for the moon there
Ah good, useless kids achieving fuck all
3/4? Wow, that’s a serious achievement if it comes off
95%? Again, shooting for the moon.

This muppet is fucking pointless. “We’ll improve things a bit in the coming years”

Wow, genius stuff there

Conversely the previous government said

  1. We’ll build lots of new homes. They didnt build one.
  2. We’ll build 40 new hospitals. A blatant lie.
  3. Green energy. Did they actually have a green energy policy? They gave new oil contracts instead.
  4. We’ve recruited 20k new police officers, after cutting 25k.
  5. School policy. I cant remember one but teachers are leaving in their droves.

He’ll be judged on those targets and thats fine by me. He will need to deliver it. It’s on him now.

Fully expecting right wing press and supporters to start whining about bankrupting the uk and whatever else.

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Ah, whataboutism.

:roll_eyes:

How so? I’ll judge Starmer on what he delivers, just like the last government.

You’ve judged him on? Not a lot.

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