War in Iran : Trump's latest misadventure

Are you joking, or do you really believe such illogical conspi-stuff ? There are videos of Shaheeds going into it and there is 0.00000000% reason for a “False Flag”. Why would the US or Israel do that ? 0 reason to do so. In a False Flag, at least there must be a purpose.

So what would change if it actually was a successful False Flag ? Nothing. And that is why it is foolish to even think the thought and why it is obviously categorically bullshit.

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Fun, fun.

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Indeed, and this was clear from the first hour on Day 1 and has also been reported since Day 1. IRGC have been given orders, in advance and operates individually. This is not absurd if you think it so, but due to assumption that US or Israel would target it’s command structure, which they have.

So IRGC are following orders given by high command prior to the fight began. They also clearly have a road map of escalation.

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Don’t say I didn’t warn about this. It shouldn’t be surprising this after Hezbollah launched from south of the Litani (which is madness).

I fucking hate this war so much. It is so stupid. Actors are behaving so stupidly.

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Maybe those predetermined orders to IRGC should have been a bit clearer. Iran’s Foreign Ministry has admitted several times, it has 0 control or even contact with IRGC launching crews.

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Yes i do, unless it is proven Iran did it . Isreal have done it before for many years,framing other people. I wouldn’t be suprised if they did do it..

I don’t believe what is coming out of westerrn zioz media. Many of us of muslim, middle eastern or asian background don’t believe what the western media says. We follow our own news channels in the middle east and Asia as well.

You will disagree with me. I am no fan of the current Iranian regime and i know many Iranian exiles in the uk hate Reza Pahlavi. They would rather have a secular govt not another king and they are sad what is happening to Iran. They also don’t trust USA’s motives either.

I respect your view. I have mine.

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Don’t you understand that it would be a completely meaningless False Flag ? What would be it’s purpose ??? There is no purpose.

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Please don’t take this as personal criticism, but I’d like to take this opportunity to highlight that this is how successful propaganda networks operate. They seize upon things like confirmation biases, preying on people’s emotions over how points in common (ethnicity, religion, social class, etc.).

It’s fine if you don’t believe “westerrn zioz media”, but you shouldn’t take your “own news channels in the middle east and Asia” as gospel either. Check and verify, check and verify.

There is no need to rush to react, just keep trying to verify what the facts are.

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It’s becoming more and more clear that IRGC thinks it’s regime might be falling and it is Götterdämmerung and their only priority now is raising the cost to astronomical degrees for the US and it’s allies, no longer caring much about long term consequences for it’s own state.

Extreme Risk, potentially Extreme Reward (If the Islamic Republic survives after this, US will think thrice before attacking it again, though this is a big IF).

What has the mentally handicapped person in Washington done.

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More for those who take an interest this, not really big news. But it explains why the Iranian Shaheeds trip up western GBAD with such surprising ease.

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Fair enough. I don’t. I appreciate your opinion
I am sorry. My emotions are running high. 150 school girls were bombed by USA/Isreal. I am not buying that they didn’t know it was a civilian place. The western media delayed this news whereas it was headlines in other news outlets all around the world. Are their lives less worthy of news than an American casualty.

The way the western media portays the middle east and asia, as if their lives are less valuable compared to American/isreali lives.

Sorry! I better not comment much here as i do not want to fight with anyone.
I am just so sad and angry.

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I might be wrong, but I thought I saw it reported quite early on in the Grauniad. I suspect that if you flip the religions around it would still be the same thing, because (and I know this sounds callous) as sad as this tragedy is, the overall conflict is still going to be what’s dominating the news, especially with the assassination.

I’m not saying you shouldn’t comment, I’m saying you shouldn’t rush to judgement.

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The Western Media did not delay it, it was front page news with horrifying videos and many pictures. It was so headline news that I didn’t even bother to post it (using MSM source, however I was after all the one who posted it here on this forum using my own curated twitter, before most of MSM had time to do so), assuming this was something the entire world had seen.

Was it headline news the day after ? No, because that is not how the tabloid press works, as it’s the start of a big regional war where others matters are as important, but not exactly hard to find. There have been debates on this, I have seen many professors and academics talk about it on twitter and of course MSM. The idea that the school bombing was not front page is just not true.

I also don’t comprehend why anyone would think the bombing was on purpose, but of course, that is at least possible (just illogical as it does not serve US or Israeli interests at all).

I will generally post videos long before MSM if I am online. News stations who are inside the ME, will generally post videos before western MSM if they have sources on the ground). There is no delay, this is how editorial media works. There will be extremely few who report directly to the western press on the ground in Iran, since no MSM will have reporters there now.

If you want news without fact checking and editors, MSM is not what you want. Then you want what I do instead, but that requires, in fact, a certain skill set because you have to be your own editor and have to know how to fact check and filter very well.

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Related to what I posted above.

Plan 9 rolls on

All some what related

Strikes:

(note the word “rumours”, it means unconformed).
However, Israel claims this bombing and claims indeed, that 88 clerics were meeting to vote on the new supreme leader.
If true, this shows unbelievable naivity and lack of survival instinct by the clergy.

The first glimmer of deescalation and sanity in this conflict

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