Today’s papers have Antony being put on transfer list.
Salah replacement?
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More chance of them doing it with a Corby in a hotel than on the pitch.
Rip up the system and reset the whole club. Get rid off the wasters and buy to fit the plan. Exactly what we did under Klopp. They won’t because it’s all the owners’ fault. #schardenfreud
Thats my point, I’m not convinced they will recognise that everything they’ve done off the pitch in the last 15 years or whatever is not working
Don’t think they can rip up the structure totally.
Too much money that’s been blown away by Ed Woodward and now this transfer team.
FSG kept in a structure as soon as they came on board. Made some mistakes in transfers but nothing along the lines of the shit decisions that the United guys did. Did the right thing getting rid of Dalglish and then Rodgers. Showed the ruthless touch there.
Maybe not straight away but somewhere along the line rhey need to recognise it isnt working. That should have started years ago, abd this is another opportunity to start that reset but I’m not convinced they will.
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That is the reason why I wasn’t making fun of the Southgate rumours. After what he did for England, I think he actually would work to be the guy to take a step back and look at the big picture. He would not win a damn thing, but would not be the next guy wasting three years trying to win the next thing.
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I think that was the plan initially with Ole. The fans went overboard and then the spending went too. Ole should have been used for clearing the dead weight. Instead , they thought he was a manager who was good.
It’s almost like United can’t stop themselves from Spending on needless transfers.
Whether it was the transfer for Ronaldo or Pogba before or Casemiro , Varane now.
Their urge to do a big ticket transfer of a known name has let to their downfall. So many of their transfers are those big names who’ve taken a huge chunk in wages and have delivered nothing.
Di Maria, Schweinsteiger, Ibra, Cavani, Pogba, Casemiro, Ronaldo, Sancho, Antony, Van De Beek
Every one of their big ticket transfers has failed (Maybe Ibra can be termed as a moderate success at best). The hype around Antony makes him a big ticket transfer. 95m on that sack of shit. VDB was being boasted as one of the best emerging midfielders (who finished some 7th in Balon’Dor)
Nah, I think Ole was a stopgap that would please the crowds. There was never any strategic thinking, he was meant to let them buy time while they did some, but their heads were turned by a little bit of relative success.
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He was who the press started seriously reporting interest in first, but just because he was the focus of press attention for a period does not mean he was first choice.
We know he was short listed, but we only really know who was on that due to how much the other club were willing to talk about it. That means we should not interpret our interest to be related to the level of press coverage of any candidate. But if you look at the timeline it paints a pretty clear picture of him being a guy the club’s data short listed for whomever the new SD would be, but once Hughes came in and evaluated that he was not keen.
Reporting of Amorim being a favourite started within a month of the Klopp news. Hughes though wasnt announced as the new SD until the end of March. Almost immediately after we started hearing about Slot and reporting from our side about concerns over Amorim’s tactical fit. Any time there “we never wanted him anyway” coverage from the club’s side after a rumored moved breaks down it is reasonable to question how much of that is face saving, but it really does seem the likely situation is Amorim was good enough to justify being short listed, but was never a favourite of the guy making the final decision.
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Oh dear. Release clause, but also a 30-day notice period.
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They’ll just pay extra for the notice period.
I do understand he’ll be paid a lot for doing the United job. Just hope he thinks twice. From what’s been said, he comes across as an extremely likable guy. Don’t want him to have his name forever tarred by association with those manures.
He can stick it out in Sporting and wait for any of the Spanish jobs or the Italian jobs to open up.
Not sure about that.
Thinking about their current set up that I’d guess it comes down to Dave Brailsford to recognise thoae systems aren’t working.
What’s the chances he shrugs and says it was the manager?
I was just there.
Shithole, and I live in Croydon.
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Fuck.
Watching the Budget but need to put Goldbridge on. He’ll be apoplectic.
I think he is a bright young manager, and this could go either way. He might go there and start to get a tune out of them, relatively speaking, and build it up bit by bit to what he wants - within tighter PSR constraints, due to lots of reckless spending previously.
On the other hand, it might well be the case that it’s all a bit too much, that the spotlight and interest around it will be a huge leap from where he is now. It is well documented that there are issues throughout the club, so we are also about to find out how much those issues have been fixed by the team Catweazle has installed. Maybe they have a good structure now, and ETH was the weak link?
It will be interesting to see how it unfolds, but on the face of it, I do think he is a promising manager and it could be a good choice on their part.
All of the same things were said about ETH when they got him. Promising younger manager with a modern play style that has proven himself in a weaker league.
The issue is that United is under more scrutiny than probably any other club in England, and their fans don’t like having to give managers time to implement a play style if they’re not winning matches. Of course it could work out and he could end up getting a tune out of the utter shit-trucks in that squad, but I think the higher likelihood is that the job proves too big for him, results don’t go his way, and he’s gone before June 2026.
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The best thing he has going for him is he is now the appointment of the “new INEOS structure”. This is the first point at which they cannot point to a failing as being something they inherited and that incentives them to back him through some rough times because if it fails it falls on them.
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I can’t remember which season it was exactly but my Man United-supporting friend - hubris personified when it comes to football - once famously and very confidently boasted that “money will pull them out of trouble”. I actually believed him (and a part of me still does), though I didn’t know it would take them quite some time.
It seems that no matter how much of it they waste, there’s always more and their academy keeps churning out players who help keep the club financially stable. I still find it funny but that hubris is what I came to associate their club with, later confirmed by Klopp himself when he spoke about Woodward’s Disneyland pitch.
They seem desperate to be viewed as Real Madrid of England and even wider - which they are in terms of their financial strength and commercial deals but that’s as far as the comparisons go. I do feel that with Berrada, Ashworth and Amorim, that spend will be redirected from expensive big names to expensive young talent that they identify as best but I think that their owners will still interfere with that policy.