When the shit hits the fan, and they've got the wrong man, that's Amorim!

I think he will be fired. The talk about relegation is probably the one tune he can sing that makes Ratcliffe go nuts and burn the cash. He is essentially now casting doubt on his own suitability.

I really don’t see them getting a point at Anfield, Arsenal will punt them out of the FA Cup. January 16 is a winnable match for them versus Southampton. If they don’t get 3 points then, he will have no credibility left whatsoever

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There is a scenario where his career prospects are best protected by walking away early than waiting for the pay offs from being fired. The former can be done with a nod and wink to unstated things being worse than explained to him and promises not being kept that made it an impossible job. The latter necessitates a period of fecklessness that will alter how other club owners look at him. And will be devastating for his emotional well being.

But with him coming out with the relegation talk, that possibly suggests he isnt savvy enough to pull off path 1 and may expedite path 2.

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It makes me feel so warm inside reading all of that, especially the description of the Southampton game as “a winnable match” and know it was said in full sincerity :heart_eyes:

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I do think he’ll improve United.

But depends on the patience of the fanbase.

This has been the narrative of every manager since Moyes left and they’ve all steadily made them worse. Early days but Amorim’s results, his general personality and the fact he appears to be mentally broken after 6 weeks makes me very sceptical that he will ever make them better.

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I know it’s essentially a results game but there are things that United are doing on the pitch which shows that Amorim does have the skillset for this job.

Shouldn’t have been hired though. The players are massively unsuited to his game. There were reasons Liverpool didn’t pick him.

Also , just checked the United academy formation , they are playing 4-2-3-1. Sure they are winning a lot. But the first thing that any academy does is to tailor their formation to be close to their first team formation.

The perfect manager for them right now is someone so sick in the head that he welcomes the boos. He feeds of them with such a firm sense of self that it wont negatively impact how he goes about doing the job he knows needs to be done.

The problem is they fired him nearly 10 years ago

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Like what? I have seen not a single thing in any of these 10 or so games that shows anything resembling the effect of quality coaching.

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Like what?!?

edit: simulposted with @Limiescouse

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Their wing play for instance has improved…

Way too often we’ve seen the likes of wingbacks cut back from the wingers with no overlap being there. Everyone in ETH time wanted to crowd the box.

Look at their match against City for instance. I know it’s this city side and more of an indictment to how bad city are right now but United did play reasonably coherently that game.

They were shit in that game. I think the Bruno penalty in the 89th minute was their first shot on target in the entire match.

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Sure. That’s on the players. But there was some signs there during that match.

City were shit too and United bypassed their midfield quite easily.

Let Slot and the boys do their part first. I know it can’t really be compared but a win (or wins, actually) against Liverpool is what gave Ten Hag the boost he needed after being down.

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Agreed, even a draw would provide some hope. That may be the reason he has for raising the spectre of relegation.

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Talking about ETH and LVG

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Van Gaal, Jose, and Ralf, have all drawn on their incredible experience in the game to identify things at the club getting in the way of sporting success, and all have been ignored by the club.

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Three huge figures of the game.

And all of them have said relatively the same.

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Despite being initially labeled Jurgen’s godfathers

I am sort of hoping that belief in him doesn’t evaporate so quickly in the club hierarchy that they restrain themselves from spunking as much as they possibly can in January on ‘his players’.

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