Who would you buy?

Have you considered it’s because they aren’t pinching pennies and actually have a strategy for targets? Same reason we didn’t just get Tielemans on a free. It’s never just about paying as little as possible and just getting anyone in.

Liverpool like to keep their cards close. Lavia and his transfer to Liverpool was likely doomed ever since Nikola started the thread.

Liverpool have someone else in mind. We will get DMs soon. The outrage that some in this forum have when transfers take a bit longer is hilarious at times

We have been credibly linked in the past to Yunus Musah from Valencia. He just moved to Milan on a pretty cheap deal and so is another one that could have been obtained cheaply if that was the primary concern.

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We all know Yunus Musah is a smokescreen for us to sign Jack Colback on loan, come on now.

I head Sander Berge is on the market again

They’re not pinching pennies? That’s why it’s taking 2 weeks to sign one player when we all KNOW that Soton’s asking price is 50m and yet Liverpool faffing around with lowball offers then increase their offer 2m more each time?

It’s getting so bad even the likes of Carragher is BLASTING LFC’s transfer business. Article: Jamie Carragher reacts to Liverpool’s latest Romeo Lavia bid (hitc.com)

Wow we have really wealthy people here when 2mil pounds are pennies to them.

It’s not my money and I should not need to care but when in a world where people are throwing money recklessly, we are actually blaming the club for being responsible? A club that despite all it’s good intentions, only had a profit of less than 10m and yet we are expecting them to spend way above that year after year?

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A) I hardly think we are low-balling Soton. Even £40m is probably overpaying for Lavia if it were not for our poor negotiating position

B) I’m sure there are ongoing talks with other targets

C) I don’t care if we appear to look silly in our negotiation tactics. The only result I care about is what is completed before the window shuts. If we save 4 or £5m, great

D) Why do people suddenly care what Carragher thinks? We never did before

E) I don’t think Lavia would have solved a lot of the defensive problems we showed during preseason. At least not much more than Mac Allister or Bajcetic would in the 6 role (e.g., those balls over the top)

F) Rice, Caicedo, Partey, Casemiro, Palhinha, etc. were all better than him last season… Don’t expect an immediate impact. We would be buying Lavia for his potential and to add an extra body; not for his immediate contribution for which a couple weeks won’t matter

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Or the opposite. Wealthy ppl are much more common notoriously miserly. Hey @cynicaloldgit :wink::joy:

Good point

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Given that both Mac and Dom are creative midfielders, why still the need for Trent to move into midfield? Why not maintain the traditional RB spot?

My thoughts as well. We dont take half this time in transfers for much greater money. Think we are trying other targets keeping interest alive on Lavia. If someone comes in for Lavia think we will match the 50 million or once the other target is feasible then we will stop the negotiation for Lavia. Lets see. I would rather buy Inacio and start with Inacio-----VVD------Konate in defence. Trent — Macca/Thiago as CDM.

Pack the midfield to offset the lack of a natural defensive midfielder? I dread how some teams are going to have a field day with us. I remember Pochettino’s Tottenham hitting long balls over Lovren’s head in that 4:1 defeat, I wouldn’t be suprised to see a repeat on Sunday…

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Also people going on about Jones as a 6 in the u21 euro win…that was with a double pivot as opposed to him by himself.

Midfield overload, gives us more control in that area.

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Except, WE don’t, and the club doesn’t until it has gone through the negotiation process.

Lowballing is where you make offers that you know seriously undervalue what you are buying. I don’t think it would be fair to say that of our bids, at least the latter two that have been made.

Given £50m is the alleged asking price for Lavia - can you safely say he is our sixth best signing, because we have only paid more than that for 5 other players and I think they came in to be starting from day one - which I don’t think is the expectation for him here (and one of the reasons why the club probably isn’t going balls out to close the deal so quickly)?

So Jones and Mac Allister with Gakpo/Szoboszlai ahead of them

If they’re going to bypass the midfield with long balls over the centre backs head, how would a defensive midfielder help stop that? Surely that needs pressure on the ball from those playing higher up the pitch or the defence needs to drop deeper.

I still maintain that all our woes last season were not just personnel ones but also tactical ones. The pressing from the front three was much poorer and the midfield lacked legs. Our press was easily bypassed and left Fabinho exposed and he quite clearly didn’t have the legs to cope. If we stood off it allowed easy out balls over the top of a very high defensive line.

As much as new players will help, addressing some of the tactical failings of last season is just as important. Our whole thing is compressing the pitch. They did that with the positions they took up but not in the way they played.

It looks to me like we seem stuck between two styles. The hard aggressive pressing machine of the earlier Klopp years and the possession based team of more recent seasons. More than any transfer, that issue needs solving.

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Granted that he’s not quite up there, but given the savage price inflation we have experienced I think it’s a bit of a fallacy to equate current player prices to our all time spending. It’s apples and oranges.

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What’s wrong with press when out of possession and go possession-based when in possession?