I think there is a rule about not being able to loan a player in the same window you bought him. But again, Im not sure if that applies to just Prem to prem loans or international as well
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That leaves open the possibility of loaning out in the winter window?
Even if there was, with the sort of money they are pouring into it, the idea of building an inventory isnât farfetched. What do the Geordies need in January? Next summer? Sign these guys on a 5 year, loan them as needed
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You just buy two of each so no matter what they need you have 2 they can pick from 
bullshit. iâm not defending them but letâs not tell out-and-out lies.
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I think we are on dangerous ground now
Would not be surprised
Just Prem to Prem. The only limitation on this strategy is that they can loan a maximum of 4 players per season.
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Why are we gasping with disbelief now? Red Bull clubs have been doing deals with each other for ages for benefit of one or the other club whenever it suits them.
Newcastle are going to ramp it up and exploit the rules, due to the significant mismatch between an organization trying to run a football league, and a nation state with unlimited funds trying to do whatever it wants to do to exert soft power and influence via sport.
Newcastle will learn from Man City. They will pad sponsorship deals and weave a tangled web, but not to the degree that they would so blatantly fall foul of FFP. They will stay on the right side of that, probably, due to the extra scrutiny brought on by Man Cityâs cheating.
But they have noticed a massive opportunity to exploit the loan market in a new way. The Saudi PIF owns the game in Saudi Arabia and funds the best teams. This summer we are seeing a shift in strategy, and instead of being a retirement home for show ponies like Ronaldo, they are snapping up players who have some life left in them.
If that strategy increases, and it looks like it will, then part of what they will do is loan the players to their flagship team in Europe, which is Newcastle.
Newcastle will benefit from free players, on obscene wages, and when this is fleshed out and developed further, it could be as many as one third of a whole team, each season, under the current rules.
If I am going to get a third of a team, each year, free of charge from the owners, then all of a sudden, the âlegitimateâ budget I have only has to refresh the other part of the team.
There will likely be other ways and means for them to exploit. They will do it because of the mismatch in power and resources between a relative bunch of amateurs running the Premier League, and a nation state with unlimited wealth.
I despair, but on the other hand, I remember what happened with David and Goliath. Hopefully the Prem, the plucky underdog in this analogy, takes down some giants.
Sorry Red but the premier league being the plucky underdogs is comicalâŚthey, just like the greedy bastards we now call footballers wonât do shit because the more money they can earn the more they will look at the options to ingratiate themselves with âŚ
We all know the solution, but how many will cancel their football subscription and not attend matches or buy the merchandise?
Was a metaphorical question because itâs pointless given the amount of greed in every aspect of the game
You are probably right, and the Prem wonât do anything. We will see.
I am hopeful that the 115 charges against Man City might come to fruition in meaningful punishment. And that the Prem grows some balls to close some loopholes that are now being exploited by Newcastle.
The Prem is, of course, a rich and powerful organization⌠but still a minnow in relation to the Saudis. But hopefully they will take a stand because of the potential threat of a breakaway Super League. The last attempt at that was poorly thought out, and probably announced before it was ready.
If it comes around again, it will be because the powers that be are not fit for purpose, and the clubs - big names, powerful clubs - will have decided they donât want to operate under their rule.
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Ugh
Was always going to be target.
Iâm more of the expectation that these clubs end up going off to create their own super league.
Like all these things though theyâve announced about 50 players and one big name has gone.
After one more year with us, itâs not the worst outcome in the world for the Saudi league to start aggressively pursuing him. That new contract is likely going to feel like a bit of an albatross before it comes to its natural end and a rich suitor wanting to give us a good amount of money to cut it short before it becomes a problem is a likely win-win
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I do agree. I wouldnât want to lose him this summer.
Especially if they then loan him to Newcastle. But I donât think he is the kind they will loan.
Agreeing here too, on timing - next summer, and also on a firm NO to a Newcastle loan.
With those two things said, I would also be ok if Mo was open to a move this summer, obviously for a higher fee. I think we would do ok with the dough and overall the team would be stronger.
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I believe they have already stated this as their goal. They want to build a league that will eventually overtake the Champions League.
Although, I suspect it will be cheaper and quicker to simply buy the Premier League/UEFA/FIFA - however that would possibly happen - rather than trying to pump money into making the clubs high quality.
The podcast I was listening to was saying they would have a number of clubs from around the world that get selected by PIF as their ârepresentativeâ for that area and put them all together in a global super league. At that point I imagine the name of each club would be superficial as they travel the world playing all over the place.
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Ceferinâs comments the other day really dont do much to assuage my concerns. He likened it to the âthreatâ posed by the Chinese league, and as that failed this is presumed to also fail. Thatâs about as far as his analysis went.
The Saudis are not constrained by the same sort of limitations that venture faced though. The Chinese backers wanted to build the CSL to build Chinese football, and the star players were merely a part of that. The Saudis have no such motivation. The Chinese venture was also critically undercut by the characteristic wild swing in Chinese policy that overnight stopped Chinese money going abroad. Again, the whole point of the Saudi mission right now is to invest their money in as many places as they can so that everything is touched by them. That spigot is not turning off anytime soon.
Other than a superficial look I really dont think the challenges the game faced from the two ventures are anything like the same. The cynical part of me says that Ceferin knows that but maybe he isnt actually invested in protecting UEFA from this threat
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I can see them using that CWC as potential.
Letâs face it the FIFA bloke would feel whatever he feels given on whose supplying him with the cash.