Anfield and Kirkby

Watching this makes you realise how much football has become sanitized these days. It has become more hygienic for sure, but much has been lost along the way, isn’t it…

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Small boys in the park, isn’t it? Jumpers for goalposts? The warm feeling of someone else’s piss running down the back of your leg?

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They must have been so pissed from all the beer before the match that they didn’t even notice… maybe the smell in the bus when going home wasn’t that great, but whatever, they surely continued singing in there… :laughing:

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I for one am glad that you don’t get pissed on at a game these days.

That sounds horrific.

The smell on the old kop back in the “good old days” must have been fucking horrific.

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I wonder: is there anyone around in this forum who experienced the standing Kop in the sixties, first hand? @Commando maybe? How did the piss smell at the time, if there was any?

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It was the early seventies when I first started going. Yes, people were still peeing on The Kop in those days. It had a similar smell to the old open air public toilets that were around in those days. Much more civilised nowadays. :nerd_face:

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Somethings about modern football really are much better

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Well I suppose you can’t have it all. It must have taken hours to press all these people together before the match, and there was simply no way to reach a water closet once you were in.

On the other hand, being part of that atmosphere in the Kop at the time must have been something to behold. The old videos are testimony enough for this. In comparison, nowadays’ atmospheres in Europe’s football stadia are quite subdued to be honest. Not even today’s Anfield at the best of moments can match that.

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The Barcelona game at Anfield was the best I’ve experienced.

There will be people who go way back who will have other games etc but that Barca game at the end people were just looking at each other.

We knew we had just seen something insane that will still be talked about in 50 years time

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I guess those areas behind The Kop and The SKD Stand are residential areas. So expansion of those stands would be difficult, right? Relocating lots of people is difficult and complicated itself. Then the cost of acquiring the land and the cost of relocating the displaced people will also be very significant.

I don’t mind if we leave The Kop as it is now. It has great historic and emotional value.

What was the impact of the expanded Main Stand on the traffic in the neighborhood? I may be wrong, but the area looks very congested and the roads look pretty narrow. I hope the city council and LFC starts focusing on building proper road networks from this point forward. Not only the matchday crowd needs a swift way in and out, the residents must be afforded as little disruption possible.

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That was my point of the pay off per seat. Beyond the two stands now done and being done the other two carry minimal ROI. So if we ever did increase capacity it wouldn’t make financial sense.

Not saying we wouldn’t but it would mean an investment of some sorts or naming rights maybe.

My dream is a 20k Kop with a boys pen where free tickets go out for each game to schools around Liverpool for those spots.

More they rolled up a newspaper and used it as a piss tube…

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Does anyone know if the club still own a number of the properties on Skerries Road or did they end up selling them?

Buying those properties isn’t a problem just takes a long time.

They did that with 2 or 3 streets behind the main stand
For that development

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Are you referring to the rivers of gold? It wasn’t so bad, just so long as you didn’t wear your Sunday best, and you remembered to have your rolled up copy of the Echo to hand. :thinking:

Ah yes, the atmosphere.

If you got to the ground early, particularly on a frosty winter’s day, the rising aroma of ammonia cleared the sinuses and made your eyes water…

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As far as I know, the club sold off all of its properties on Skerries Road back in the early 2000s.

In the most recently registered floating charge, which includes all the property and undertakings of the club, there are no properties listed on Skerries Road.

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The properties behind the King Kenny stand, on Skerries Road, are, as far as I can ascertain, all privately owned, so it would be very costly to persuade all the residents to sell up; in all probability it might prove impossible to get everyone to agree to sell up. And it’s highly unlikely that the club would be granted a compulsory purchase order to force any reluctant owners to move on.

The biggest issue with any expansion of the Kop is that Walton Breck Road (the A5089) runs immediately behind the stand. Obtaining the necessary consents, to either reroute the road or build an extended stand over it, would undoubtedly prove time consuming and costly with no guarantee of success.

Assuming consents were obtained, the actual construction costs would likely render the whole exercise uneconomic.

So I think it most likely, when the Anfield Road expansion is completed, that apart from one or two relatively minor mods, that will be that for Anfield.

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http://northgate.liverpool.gov.uk/DocumentExplorer/Application/folderview.aspx?type=MVMPRD_DC_PLANAPP&key=1200084

For the nerds out there, looks great.

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The size difference is staggering, you can see the old ARE on this one.

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So they do the same as with the main stand: they keep the existing structure of the lower stand, which allows them to stay near the ground, and then build a new structure for the upper stand. Very clever.

I wonder if the old ARE stand will be useable during the first construction phase, as it used to be the case during the construction of the main stand.

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