Yeah, I think I’m more on the side of learning when to play those youngsters i.e. early in cups, or dead rubbers etc. Same as the small squad discussion had here already. I think I’m right in saying that Klopp was also surprised by the number and intensity of games here.
Note that the players you mention were first team ready. Many of the ones we’re discussing here are not. Chicken and egg situation agreed.
Indeed, and Rafa used to say the same thing as well, during the whole of his tenure with us. Bringing the senior and the youth players together must have been high on the agenda of the club since quite some time.
The move to Kirkby was very important in my opinion for coaching staff and players.
With all due respect to the stadium and we do have a pretty special one (that has also it’s question marks for the long term future), the training ground is the players’ club home, where they go to work every day.
There comes a time when some things have to change and new history to be created. Some of those moves/improvements were long overdue and that’s just club issues/strategy, not linked to certain coaches pushing it or blocking it, everyone would agree to it and want it to happen.
Sigh, when Klopp first started integrating these players in Dortmund, nobody knew them. They were incredibly young; Gündo came from the second division, etc. Besides, Klopp always said that if things didn’t work out, he should be blamed, not the kids. It’s really not comparable; we shouldn’t even try.
But what Klopp had to learn was the system of youth development in England; sending the kids away on loan to get more playing time was new to him at the time. Initially, he would have preferred to keep them all. 
It was impossible to keep all of them because we had some large squads in those years. We did a lot of quality selling, which helped improving our team and squad.
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Solanki, Ibe, Brewster, Wilson (maybe should’ve kept him)
It was the right move. The player also wants to go and play, build his career. Even Shaqiri didn’t get a lot of game time behind Salah, for Wilson it would’ve been even harder.
Yeah. He wouldn’t be the player we see now without the game time he got after leaving Anfield.
Slot is his own man and should be judged on how he is doing in the job. One full season, one Premier League title. That is excellent. Then the second season - ugh, so many things going wrong. Some of that has been on Slot, some of it has been on circumstances out of his control.
So here we are, jury is out, and he might be moved on in the summer, or he might stay on. If we fail to qualify for next season’s CL he will surely be moved on. If we don’t win anything, but say we sneak into next season’s CL via 5th spot, it’s borderline. There will be a review and he may or may not come out of that with his job at Liverpool. If we did something special like win the CL, then Slot would almost certainly stay on. Two seasons, one Prem, one CL, I don’t think you can sack a man for that output.
So let’s see.
One thing he should learn to do is use more players. The core group he regularly deploys is too small and that probably has an adverse effect on quantity of injuries and how knackered the players get, as they aren’t rotated enough. He should trust a few more to carry more of the load. One mitigating circumstance he would no doubt point to is that he would like to, but injuries have hampered it.
My hope is that the Dutch national team will call him up to take over at some point, maybe even this summer? 
Nyoni is 4 years younger, Morton showed some promise at Blackburn and Hull but Klopp never showed much interest in bringing him fully in. Maybe it tells you a fair bit about that league and before anyone says it Jacquet is also about 3 years younger.
Hhm, I’d like to remind you about Fabinho, who played at Ligue 1 for quite a long time before joining us. Plenty of successful Ligue 1 players have succeeded here in England in recent years (unlike say, Italian players from Series A).
Plus, all those French talents over the years… most of them are from Ligue 1 before joining other leagues.
It’s not uncommon for players to play well at a lower level but never be able to step up because it’s their maximum level 
There is an assumption that a playing career is a single pathway, and a player always ends up with the career they were always going to have. In reality it’s a series of sliding doors moments that can take a career in different directions.
The temptation is to look at Tyler Morton doing well for Lyon, and conclude it was a mistake to sell him and he could have done a job for us. But Tyler Morton’s success at Lyon is a function of him being put in the first team and playing regular football - something that would never have happened at Liverpool.
There have been loads of players like this down the years - kids who couldn’t make a breakthrough at Liverpool who went on to have good careers. Dom Solanke, Harry Wilson. Aspas, Luis Alberto, Thiago Ilori. Seb Coates. etc. it doesn’t mean that it was wrong to move those players on.
I was at the San Siro in 2021 when Morton started and played pretty well as we beat Milan 1-2. But the competition was big, what can you say. Perhaps he had a chance of displacing Endo recently as our 4th CM on paper (in hierarchy might have ended up even lower than that), but he really needed to go and play football somewhere, not depend on loans and insecurity where he is every September. No shame if that’s not at Liverpool (for now). Some players go and prove elsewhere that they can get back or finally merit more of a chance at a big club.
I know it’s sometimes hard to resist the money aspect and for English people culturally to leave and go abroad, even though in recent times players are taking example from other ones and are doing it more. From a player’s point of view though, I’d say it’s better to leave and build your career, especially if you attract a pretty decent level of clubs. I bet Morton now feels better than ever at Lyon and isn’t thinking too much about what’s tomorrow. And I don’t think that has a lot to do with Liverpool, Klopp or Slot.
Funny but I’ve checked where Tiago Ilori is these days and it’s not really the sort of career you would’ve imagined he could have got even after Liverpool.
Many players end up like that, loads of them.
So did Tyler Morton on loan at Blackburn make any case for first team football? Because that would have been Klopp’s decision.
I watched a fair bit of him for some reason and he looked like a decent lower PL, championship player at best.
I am delighted he is doing well at Lyon but several teams passed on him.
Not just big bad Arne Slot
I kept editing this post …and it probably is completely incoherent at the time of posting. 
I would just love to see the players, veterans, new and youngsters thrived under Slot and his supporting staff. It is just so hard to see some players who always give everything (and may not be the top players we want) not being used until “break glass in emergency” situation.
Youngsters are not being used as often as we would like, but at the same time, we are seeing other really outstanding young players in Europe already suffering injuries by playing too much and too often. This is a tough balance.
On rumours that Slot does not watch the academy players training or matches, I have only see one instance that he did not show up on one of the request…we do not know the situation relating to his no show. Perhaps Slot is not as good as multitasking as Kloppo (or delegate properly), we just do not know. Maybe Slot needs someone like Pep Lijnders having worked with and seen the youngsters, becomes the bridge to bring more youngsters to the first team, and constantly in Slot’s ears on how good certain academy player(s) is, like how TAA broke into the 1st team.
In terms of playing style, actually, even at the beginning of last season, my dad was not too thrilled about the way our boys inviting pressure at the backline. I told him that was the way to pull the opponents out of position and then with good passing to break the lines. Late last season and this season (until the more recent matches), that fast break was missing. The press was poor with the current crop of players. Many have said on here that maybe we are moving away from the high, intense pressing game.
I think it will take us a while to adapt after 9 years of Kloppo’s high press games and his management/delegration styles.
I thought Ilori looked the business when we signed him. Reminded me of a young Rio Ferdinand.
Read that wrong.