Arne Slot - Head Coach (Part 1)

Yeah probably right there, they are both pushing nearly 80. In all, I reckon they’ve built the club into a very stable prospective place. Would be sad to have new ownership discussions.

Puts the Slot or a new manager view into insignificance.

I hope it’s not a would you rather oil or a gangsta money conversation. The multiple sports investors model certainly looks the better backing.

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There is folk on X trying to implore Musk to buy us :sweat_smile:

Personally I think a big X on the front of our shirts would ruin our style and leaves us as targets.

Yep you got it, Henry is getting on a bit, and has done it all here really. The high influx of young players on good contract terms are also attractive sale assets.

Yeah I dunno how I would feel about that? Trillionaire nut job pointlessly attempting to fly people to places with no atmosphere ala moon and mars turns out to be Liverpool fan.

We then win quadruples for at least a decade, brag about it, before the premier league send the lawyers in and say you cheating cunts, 70 points deduction.

Icing on the cake for me this season is that City pinch it from Arses, then end up in Championship. Arsenal can then tick that Baroness Brady asterix into their record books, not happening though is it :confused:

I’ve been wondering about FSG on two counts - the age of the main people in the group, and the backing away from multiple club ownership.

I’m not altogether sure that they want to be passing their sporting interests down to their heirs and may prefer to cash in to fuel up the mega yachts in their dotage. In the case of LFC presumably at a ~15x profit over their initial investment.

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They could still sack him … I don’t reckon they have the balls to do it though.

Knew the title was out of reach before Christmas.

Carabao cup trophy is peanuts in the bank, Slot started 90% of non first team players anyway.

FA cup trophy is also peanuts in the bank, and we faced City who probably will win that.

Champions League trophy not going to be won by any English team. I can’t believe Arsenal find new confidence, they’re dead men walking.

Season considered over in the US, 5th place brings in millions … we have to get there, otherwise everyone’s really pissed off

I wonder if that plays a part in the “FSG to sell” rumours that have been mooted. Let the new owners appoint their own first team coach and management team.

{In all honesty it shouldn’t have been that difficult for teams to work out how to play against us given the fact that Slot seemed to enjoy telling pundits what tactics he was implementing and why he doing it.

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That was different. FSG had been intent on getting Klopp before they got Rogers, but Klopp wanted to honour his contract at Dortmund. He then announced he would be finishing up after the season ended in April 2015, but did not want to rush into a new job but take time with his family.

Had Klopp been willing and ready to take the job in the summer of 2015, Rogers would have been sacked rather than keeping him for the 3-4 months Klopp wanted to refresh and recharge his batteries.

With Alonso available now, my gut feeling is that the club are waiting til the end of the season to stop any added pressure/expectation until we know for certain if we will have Champions League football next season

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Is he though? We don’t know much about that, as he holds his cards very close to his chest. Maybe he isn’t available for us this summer?

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I wouldn’t put it like that.

Given the way the fan base is at the minute, the way pundits are talking, and the evidence we’ve seen on the pitch the path of least resistance would be to sack him. It would keep everyone happy, gets the fans back onside for a bit.

Sticking with him, though the howls of protest and derision, is by far the ballsier move. You could accuse FSG of stupidity, over-confidence and bad PR. I don’t think you could accuse them of lacking bottle.

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He’d surely be looking for a job in the summer, and that might be our opportunity to get him. I don’t think he’ll wait for us to sack Slot. I think it’s get him now or don’t get him for another 2-3 years minimum.

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Maybe. Not being a billionaire looking to buy a football club I can’t work out in my own head if having a clean slate to appoint who you want would be appealing or having an incumbent in place initially would be the preference.

Depending on who it was buying us and seeing how many rakes FSG stood on in those first couple years I think having a manager, DoF and some executives in place for continuity initially would have more appeal.

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If that scenario is valid, and Xabi is open for a move to us, then it’s fsg’s obvious duty to hand Slot his P45 after the last match of the season, and to bring him in.

If it doesn’t happen though, it might be that Xabi isn’t available for us. Maybe he doesn’t want to come to us right now, he’s possibly waiting for something else, who knows… in that case, fsg will be between a rock and a hard place… keep Slot or dispose of him and bring someone else in. Who could that possibly be?

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I find it interesting that a few of the sources who you suspect are often given angles to push from the club (I cannot tell you who has said because Pearce/Lynch etc all roll into one in my head) have gone beyond saying we’re sticking with Slot to saying that Hughes and Co have run through the assessment on Alonso and aren’t sold on him. Im still inclined to agree with @JibJab s take (deep skepticism on these comments about ongoing faith in Slot having any relevance to whether he goes in the summer), but I’ve found it an interesting escalation of the “Slot is going no where” message.

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Yeah, I noticed that too. Ornstein has also been pushing it. It baffles me if true - Xabi has a distinguished playing career, including at our club. As a manager he has worked at clubs of similar or larger size to ours, he has shown flexibility in tactical systems and the ability to get his teams to buy into and play them. They play good attacking football with an eye on possession. He’s won a league title in a strong league. Despite his early exit at Madrid, he had them playing well and was only let go because of a revolt by the sort of personalities you would not want to see at this club. He is still relatively young and unlikely to be in any rush to leave us if he came in.

If we were willing to take a chance on Arne, I can’t see why we wouldn’t do the same on Xabi - unless its because he turned us down once?

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What about this scenario.

Xabi has already been approached.

But he doesn’t like the idea that his immediate boss (Edwards) and the one he’ll be working closely with (Hughes) are gone after his first season, he wants a stable setup with a few years locked in before he starts so he said “no, thank you” to us.

Other top managers might have the same response.

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Unless we’ve approached him at some point this season I don’t know when he’d have had the opportunity to. If you go back through the Klopp-Xabi-Hughes timeline, Xabi shut down the talk about him being Klopp’s replacement by announcing he was staying at Bayer a month or so before we even announced Hughes’ appointment.

Its possible I supposed that Edwards put out an earlier feeler in the time between Klopp’s announcement and Hughes’ appointment and got knocked back, but it just doesn’t strike me as doing something as presumptuous as that with a DoF search in the works

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:woozy_face:

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Yeah I think it is very likely to be a problem. Smart footballing decisions are not made by considering the club you join, but based on the person you will be working for and a manager with options would be mad to risk his reputation by going somewhere with uncertainty over who his boss will be.

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This now becomes a bigger problem. If prospective signings feel that Slot may not be here beyond next season, they might not want to sign given their playing time might be materially affected with the coaching change.