I completely agree with you. I just really struggle to understand why it’s always so important what the fans of rival clubs think of us. For me, there’s nothing embarrassing about it; I don’t have that “you just don’t do that” feeling in me to be better than others.
However, I do think it’s incredibly important to allow everyone to express their opinion, however they choose to do so. It just feels wrong to me to judge how others express themselves.
Hang on, that thing isn’t even a petition. It’s just a bloody counter. I think I may have “signed” by mistake finding out what was behind it. Bollocks!
I completely get it and agree with you, personally i would jump at a petition to sack Hughes and Edwards and get Jurgen in as Sporting Director , but i dont think that will happen even though it would be bloody brilliant .
No self-respecting top coach would work at LFC with Klopp as the DoF. He already has an oversized influence at the club. Paisley had to tell Shanks to stay away from training sessions for a reason.
the fact you have no way of knowing if that number is even real
the fact you can’t quantify the number of people who’ve signed it that are Liverpool fans
the fact it’s probably been made just to try and get someone a bit of online clout
the fact anyone thinks anyone at Liverpool or FSG will take a blind but of notice for all the reasons above
Ultimately the most embarrassing thing is that it’s entirely unnecessary. The fans made their feelings known on Saturday and probably will do again before the season is out. Actual fans. Loud and clear. On TV for all to see. Same with the ticket prices protests. This petition nonsense is about as impactful as that bald Irish bloke who runs a fan account ranting on TikTok. It’s just performative noise.
The club and owners will do their due diligence before making a decision. This petition won’t factor into that in the slightest.
You’re making a huge deal out of this, for nothing.
This is really too much fuss about nothing. Let people do what they want. Would you rather see people protesting outside at the training ground or something? You all need to calm down.
You could have refrained from saying that those who don’t go to the games aren’t aktuell fans, but what do I know.
Those calling for Hughes and Edwards to be sacked and keep Arne Slot in charge?
How would that change tactics and performance? This team is good enough to win games, it had limited injuries in Dec and Jan and was playing lower league sides and picked up bugger all. Sorry but the fact the manager hasn’t been able to get a tune from this side is solely down to him.
I think Carra gets to what was so problematic about Slot’s response to Mo’s comments. There was nothing in Mo’s comments that were an inerrant hit at the boss, but in responding defensively Slot demonstrated that he at least thinks it was. The fact he didnt just praise Mo for having been a great Pro and positive influence and its important everyone take the lessons they got from him into next season and beyond is strongly suggestive that Slot has fielded these concerns from Mo (and maybe more) about the way we go about our work
Mate you’re conjuring up all sorts of ideas to discredit it that you have no way of proving, or disproving in the fanciful notion of ‘this is not how we do things’. The world’s moved on. When I started supporting the team the idea of communicating with someone in real time with multiple people all around the world at the same time was a fanciful notion, yet here we are. The fan base was in turmoil in 2010, it was devouring itself in 2015 and here we are again.
It’s a petition. Someone thought it would be a means. There aren’t droves of rival fans eagerly waiting to sign it for a laugh, that’s only in some people’s heads to discredit something that they ‘think’ should have no place in the discourse. Fair enough, you’re allowed to have that opinion but then, so is someone else allowed to try it out and thinks it has its place. Fuck knows why the big pile on. Perhaps this excerpt from the article @Livvy might have something to do with it:
"There comes a point when the noise can no longer be filed away as online hysteria. There comes a point when the club can no longer pretend the anger belongs only to the distant, faceless world of social media, where the so called e reds apparently sit in dark rooms, thumping keyboards with thunderous rage and precious little room for rational thought.
Well, I suppose that makes me one of them now.
Never mind the hundreds of times I have been to Anfield. Never mind the miles, the money, the years, the frozen nights, the bad trains and the worse football. These days, if you dare to say what your eyes are telling you, you are cast as a wool, a crank, a nuisance, someone whose view bears no resemblance to what the real fans in the ground believe."
It’s the same sneering, “I’m better than you” just dressed up.