There’s always a limit, there has to be. And while the results are alarming we can only comment on what we see on the field. There’s do much going on behind it.
One thing that is certain to me is that I’m terrified of becoming United or Chelsea if we start down the route knee jerk manager swaps depending on what phase the moon is in.
I dont think he disrespected the Cup as loads of teams who have nothing else to play for except this and the FA Cup still put out ressies and kids.
But I do think the fans were disrespected. No one should be paying to watch 9 kids and the bench was something else. Id not heard of any of them bar Gordon.
What he has done has put himself under immense pressure because the next 3 games are tough and I think if he loses them all or 2 from 3 the owners will have a decision to make because to me its not a blip anymore its more like a rot has set in. All these players cannot just lose form in a few weeks. Yes I know the Jota death has played a huge part but its more than that.
That is a long way off, I don’t think we’ll go down that erratic behaviour.
We are still early in the tenures of Edwards’ new role and Hughes at the club, so there is a little question mark, but I think the club overall is pretty stable.
What is worrying now is what type of damage could happen on the pitch this season…
It’s still relatively early enough, we can still improve, compete and win certain things. Though we might lose the title in the next week or two, depending on results.
But CL football is the minimum, that would be really disappointing is this squad can’t achieve it. And as always, a season without a trophy at Liverpool is not good.
Of course I agree it has to stop, it’s very annoying and causes an uphill battle from there…
Do you remember this being a pre-Slot problem though?
Sound. Right now, I’d put Salah with Ekitike up top, and wait for Isak to show he’s ready (probably give him minutes in the league and possibly more in other games).
It is, though, fine margins.
Gakpo’s thrice woodwork, one of them in, different game. Beaten everyone, 1 inch off making it. If it was once, I’d say yeah, can happen, but three times you do expect one to make you a favour.
Set pieces? It’s not an exaggeration. In a league table with only open play goals, we’d be top, level with City, and Arsenal way below. Of course it doesn’t matter, but it highlights what a difference it makes if we sort out our set pieces both defensively and offensively. The offensive signs were encouraging vs Frankfurt, if we can carry them vs a team that defends them better. The defensive signs were encouraging vs Palace last night, I wasn’t worried in any set pieces the way we defended them - it seemed Slot had spent time on them, and I’d expect the starting 11 to show a similar approach (or so I hope).
I understand how the Dutch approach of saying it how it is, gets annoying when not used to it, when done repetitively, and especially when losing, but it is fine margins.
That would be a shame. The reason I’ve stayed on here, and also follow the Anfield Wrap, is that there has tended to be more rational discussion, compared to the hyperbole and bedwetting on social media. The match threads are the exception and if the rest of the forum becomes like that then I’d be off too.
Looking at that list, I find it quite odd that we’ve had so many away games on a trot, with the exception of the game against utd. This ‘fixture program’, or how they call it, is odd, no two ways about it.
Absolutely.
I completely ignore my phone while the game is on (I have no idea how you follow the game and type messages at the same time) and also mostly ignore the post-match threads, too. Sometimes I might pop in when it calms down, not immediately after the final whistle.
I rather pick to discuss different topics (either player threads or attacking/defending) in separate threads where the conversation isn’t basically a textual coverage form livescore or something. Good posts get lost a little bit.
We’ve had some differences in the past, but I’m with you on Slot and the situation, and I do think that in general TAN would be a worse place without you. I hope it’s just a frustration and you won’t be off.
I rarely post during a match, though I sometimes look at half time.
Its never good reading
I’m not for Slot being sacked right now, but this is a good call, and certainly one to watch for the case that the wheels come off. But we aren’t at that point yet by any means.
Out of order to be fair.
@Mascot is a forum member as well as a Mod, with the same right to his viewpoint as anyone else.
You, or anyone here hasn’t got a monopoly on opinion.
He doesn’t share yours, so have the argument without this type of shit response?
I’m not fishing for this, honest! 
I do remember what it got like towards the end of Rafa and Rodgers, and at times even Klopp, with everyone’s hands round each others throats and I don’t want that again - and since I don’t think there is a cat in hell’s change he is getting sacked this season, and we already have posters suggesting he should be or it’s a conversation the other side of a few more fixtures, I can only see it heading that way, with more and more frustrated and angry posters looking for excuses to boot the boot in.
There was a great point on the Anfield Wrap last night, defending the team selection. Slot is not going to play the first team in this round of a domestic cup under normal circumstances. It would be more worrying for him to suddenly, out of nowhere, decide to play the first team in this game because he really needs a win. That would be a manager abandoning his principles out of sheer desperation.
Losing tonight changes nothing about Saturday. Nothing at all. Exactly the same pressure.
My take is that Slot needs to maintain all his ideas and principles he went into this season with, and patiently drum them into his newly formed squad. The moment we can sense that he’s changing his principles in order to get short term results (Rodgers did that towards the end), then we’ll know that his end is inevitable.
If he remains true to the ideas which convinced his bosses to appoint him in the first place, brought success in his first year, and also convinced some top class players to join his project during the summer, he’ll be fine and get the necessary time to resolve the ongoing crisis.
I’ve actually started watching Bournemouth games and reading Bournemouth-related articles with more interest since we entered this downward spiral. Iraola and Glasner are two obvious candidates for Liverpool job if/when it becomes available but I feel that, regardless of what happens with Slot, it won’t be before the summer that club appoint a new, permanent head coach. Iraola does come off as a great fit on all fronts, though he would have to make a compromise on his rule of signing one-year rolling contracts.
Obviously, we all hope that Slot will turn this crisis around but it’s looking worse with every passing match. It’s not quite Leicester’s defence of the title but I’m not seeing even a flicker of the light at the end of the tunnel.
I say this as someone who uses expletives as a matter of course myself. Alot of the febrility is coming from you… Mate don’t get me wrong but when some old timers are all saying similar things,..
Can we take this (in my opinion needless) discussion about Mascot elsewhere please, and get back to Arne Slot? Thank you.
Yes, let’s take this fucking relentless personal hounding of me for having an opinion somewhere else.
Sacking Slot is not the answer, can’t even believe I have to type that.
I also can’t believe how many people, not only on here but in the media dismiss how much of an impact Jota has had on us this season. People say stuff like, ‘yeah but grief only effects you for a few weeks/months, then your bang at it again, I was’ etc
No that’s not how it works.
Pre Season is crucial, especially at the levels of PL football. Every other team in the league was bang at it, getting their teams in peak condition and full tactical awareness. Jota died the week before we start, our lads are grieving and going to a funeral for one of their best mates.
When Slot is trying to put across any ideas on tactics in those first weeks, how many of them were actually listening.
When we rely on players like Mo, Virg and Robbo to push the standards in training, the lads closest to Jota, how many of them were actually pushing 100% with everything.
Robbo was one of his closest mates, and he is crucial for that feel good atmosphere we see in the camp. how has he been around training, I have noticed the amount of behind the scenes footage has dropped off.
This is before factoring in the number of new arrivals, normally in the past, under Klopp new lads would have time to settle, these lads have all been thrown into the 11. That maybe down to the fact Slot thinks they are better. It also might be because they are in a better head space.
I think back to Minamino, who joined during covid and one of the reasons pointed out by club officials as to why he didn’t make it as in that first year he didn’t fully intergrate with the lads as there was no proper atmosphere. If the atmosphere was Sombre during pre season, how has that effected the new players?
Personally, I am not in the camp looking to pile in on the team, I just think it needs time. I don’t think we are seeing anywhere near the best from this team. I would argue we have built a nucleus for a team that will last the next 5 years and we just need to be patient, it might be a season of nothing at the minute, but it won’t always be this way.
My thoughts anyway, probably the ramblings of a madman to most, I rarely contribute anymore, but felt the urge to contribute.