Strongly disagree about not being able to see the big picture. Of course I can see the bigger picture. Please try to be more respectful toward fellow posters and not tell them what they can see, or not see.
Before the Mo Salah situation blew up, Slot’s tenure was the big topic of discussion. There were plenty of fans who were ready to sack him. They looked at the record with all the losses we’ve had, and also the lack of a good pattern of play. The case being made was reasonable.
On the other side there were plenty of fans who would acknowledge that while the slump is unacceptable, they were willing to give Slot longer, to see if he could work through it and make a case for himself that he should be here longer. Given the title win, for those fans he still had credit in the bank, though not unlimited. The case being made was reasonable.
Once the Salah situation is resolved, one way or the other, the Slot situation is still very much in play as the season unfolds. He has a lot of work to do to convince that he should be here next season.
I havent listened to it but whether or not Mo is at fault, i think there is nothing wrong with the club apologizing if it thinks it draws a line underneath the saga and moves everything forward.
Sometimes being the bigger man (or woman) is the best course of action.
If you truly see all of this, then you’ll also know that my negativity towards Slot has absolutely nothing to do with Mo. He’d already lost me before. It happens. I stand by the fact that I no longer trust him and simply don’t believe he’s the right one for us anymore. That, too, has nothing to do with Mo. I apologize if I was too blunt; I have absolutely no interest in starting a fight here. I already asked before to leave it at that, since we’re not getting along. These things happen. Thank you.
We’ve no idea those issues are real, from our position it looks like a player unhappy at being dropped from the starting 11. Until we know more there is no basis for an apology being required from the club, and for PR purposes, I doubt we’ll ever see one. There would be a duty to reach out to Salah as an employee to seek to resolve the stand off, but that isnt the same as an apology, and this would be exclusively internal and private.
And that’s fine. This is about moving forward, and that is sometimes easier to do if sides avoid doubling down on the other person moving first. That vagueness probably helps do that by allowing greater wiggle room with the resolution.
I can’t tell you, and it makes me sad too. I don’t know what the future holds and how things might develop.
Perhaps it’s also a bit personal for me; my rather negative experiences with the stubbornness of the Dutch might also play a role. I can barely bring myself to watch his interviews anymore, which is quite unusual for me, but I just can’t do it.
I highly doubt that his treatment and his coldness towards some of the squad will change, and that would probably be one of the most important things to me, combined with a playing identity that looks more like Liverpool again. Surely some continuity through something that’s actually recognizable as a plan wouldn’t be too much to ask? Sigh.
Sometimes for the sake of a relationship it is important to apologize even if there isnt anything technically to apologize for. An no, that doesnt mean it is an insincere apology.
What an improved relationship means to the club at this point though is anyone’s guess, but even if they do want him out there is still value in trying to mend fences to make that happen as smoothly as possible.
Fair enough, all your accumulated previous with Slot colors how you see the Salah situation.
Me too.
And I have no interest in starting a fight either, my interest is more in sticking up for a manager who has been put in an awful position by a self-indulgent player.
But beyond the Salah situation, even as an optimist, I recognize that the jury is out on Slot and he has work to do to stay for the longer term.
Apologies on my part if anything has been tetchy between us over this issue. I do respect you as a poster, and I’m happy to leave it at that.
Who cares what you call it. @redfanman was talking about why the club may still have an interest in offering an olive branch in the interest of moving forward in the best way possible
An olive branch isn’t an apology from the club, though. Of course, keep the door open. Invite Mo to talk. Work on communicating better.
But Mo has to apologize, period. There is no moving forward without Mo acknowledging that he was wrong. The club cannot sanction those kinds of tantrums from anyone.
Yeah, I don’t think he has to do it publicly. I think Slot coming out and saying “we’ve talked, he’s apologized, we’re moving forward” would be enough for everyone.
But taking responsibility for your mistakes is a major mark of character and leadership. It would be a good example for his teammates.