I think Xabi will wait until the summer. There’s a chance both this job and the Bayern job will open (If Kompany takes over for Pep). There’s also a chance that the PSG job will open if Enrique leaves to take the Real Madrid job.
Those are some elite clubs that’ll need managers. There’s no rush.
So, what’s your solution then? Because this rot can’t go on.
I understand your frustration.
Don’t really have an answer as to why. Could it be that failing to complete a high risk pass whilst we are camped in the oppositions half could see us turned over with a lot of space to attack, players out of position. Whilst, around our own box, there is less room for the opposition to take advantage of a players are in their positions to react?
Also, at home hoofing the ball up the pitch - whilst sometimes the better option - it brings groans from the crowd and gives the impression we are under pressure 
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I don’t recall it being this vocal. Isn’t going from dreadful to mediocre pulling it back 
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I personally think Klopp would have got more shit off the fans if it was his 2nd season and if he didn’t have the progression of the previous seasons in the bank, plus we all loved his character, again built up over a few seasons.
I’m not making excuses or defending Slot, just trying to put a perspective on things.
Klopp had a squad he built and that had developed together over a few seasons - stronger bonds.
Slot, has been handed the task of overseeing a massive overhaul in personnel, a lot of new players trying to fit in, make friends, understand each other. Managing out the old guard/legends like Salah/VVD. Also, and I’m not using it as an excuse the passing of a friend/team member. All in the Shadow of our most successful manager since 1990.
Also, Richard Hughes has massively put his head on the block with the money spent during the summer, i’m pretty sure he will be looking to find a scapegoat, someone to blame and putting pressure on Slot. I’m sure the media will be given a slow, but increasing trickle of stories from an unnamed source close to the club portraying the usual favourable narrative of the Clubs higherarchy.
Look at what has happened after Fergie at Utd. Wenger at Arsenal, Mourinho at Chelsea, the Fans expectations changed, demanded more and as a result put more pressure on the board, result a revolving door of managers. It will happen at City after Pep.
I understand peoples frustrations and maybe Slot isn’t the right man, but as you alluded to with Alonso and @Mascot touched upon about a magic solution, it doesn’t mean another Manager will be more successful because we believe they will be. We beat Alonso’s Madrid comfortably where the score flattered them. We also beat his Leverkusen team convincingly, so why is he the answer. Also, how did Alonso’s Leverkusen fair defending their Title? They finished 21 points off the Champions!
As I say, Slot may not be the right Manager, but in my opinion he deserves more respect and understanding from a fan base that pride’s itself on its YNWA values.
The grass is not always greener and the fall guy is not always the problem.
I completely agree, I believe that if Alonso/RM parted ways a month or so earlier he would be overseeing our game on Wednesday.
I personally believe Alonso will learn and be stronger from his RM experience. He comes across intelligent, level headed and importantly humble. However, this doesn’t guarantee he will be successful in any of future roles.
On a slight tangent - I am a massive fan of Alonso, as a player/manager/human the problem with management is that it is hard to change something if it is not implemented straight away.
Trying to relate to (but in no way comparable) my own job role as a Site Manager, you need to set/balance your authority straight away. Once you are undermined by one it is hard to enforce it on the others. It is also harder if the previous manager was a little bit more lenient, had strong relationships with the personnel because they will become disgruntled and start creating unrest.
Thankfully, I can Red card someone from site and never see them again . The point I am trying to make is when you have characters who are used to being the centre of attention, getting their own who have a crowd of followers/fans it is hard to manage. It takes experience or a very Klopp type persona to succeed.
Looking at it from a present perspective, it was a very bad decision by Alonso. Hopefully, the future will show it to be an important bad decision - although only if he manages us.
I hate to say it, but we would have been a better choice/environment for him, if his desire was to have been successful at Madrid.
I just want to clarify for everyone, that I am not David Lynch, nor as far as I know a relative of his .
The argument to that is Pep took over Barcelona without that experience and took them to one of the best team ever.
Klopp went from Mainz to Dortmund and neither of them had World Class players. At Dortmund, hee had some young highly talented players, but none that were big names until he developed the talent.
Mourinho was similar, at Porto he had some very talented players, but no really big names, so it was only when he moved to Chelsea he had those big names that could have undrsmined him, but he walked in to that changing room and had an instant control.
I am not disagreeing with you, but from a different perspective maybe with so many Managers possibly being available after the World Cup he is in a better position to control his future now, rather than losing out on the merry go round.
But you bring up a good point. It may actually be a summer transfer window where the Managers get more attention than the players.
Ancellotti, Nangelsman, Tuchel, Poch, Steve Clarke (joke) potentially available after the WC. Enrique and possibly Pep/Flick leaving their clubs. Glasner, Areola, Fabio Silva being out of contract and with Kompany’s links to Citeh, you could potentially have, Liverpool, Man Utd., Man City, RM, Barca, Bayern, PSG, Chelsea because they are Chelsea, Spurs because they are Spurs looking for new Managers, that’s not even taking into consideration Southgate, Klopp, Conte or anyone else Iv forgotten.
The only guaranteed winners from all this is the Media
I partially agree, but I don’t think we would go that far whilst still having Slot in charge.
My opinion is that we would probably already have sounded out targets to see who is interested and would be available mid season. Some who are interested might prefer to wait til the summer - so that would play a part in the clubs thinking, similar to how Klopp wanted to take some time away from the game when he left Dortmund, so we had the choice, sack Rogers in the summer but have to wait on Klopp or keep Rogers until Klopp is ready to take over?
After writing my post, I noticed I strayed off the original point slightly 
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I don’t like them personally, but I do respect Pep and Mourinho for what they have achieved at Man City/Chelsea. Mourinho more so.
Pep was a good player, a Barca legend who took over from Rijkard (I believe) but at the time where he had an incredible amount of young talent - Iniesta, Xavi and a certain Messi, with almost no egos (swapping Etoo for Ibra was a strange one though). He took over a Bayern team that had just won the CL and didn’t do anything any previous manager hadn’t done. Also, there are only two teams in Spain and generally only one in Germany. Man City is different, although he took over a Team with recent success/superstars and churned through a number of players/corruption you still have to manage them.
Mourinho was a translator to Bobby Robson, there was no reason for him to be successful. To join Chelsea, a summer where they spent a load of money and manage that squad is for me more impressive. He set his grounds by announcing himself as the Special one, like Klopp set his grounds by making the Normal one comment.
For me Klopp is the better Manager, maybe not tactically and maybe he could have won more by being a bit more of a cunt like the other two, but I wouldn’t change his approach, sometimes you can accept not winning things on the balance of how much the not winning made you feel, the journey it took you through. Infact, and I appreciate it is with hindsight I am almost glad we didn’t win it in 2014 under Rodgers, not because the Team didn’t deserve it but because we may not of had the Klopp era. Also, since then Rodgers has proved to be (being polite) a bit unlikeable and undeserved of being the Manager to lead us to our first title in decades.
I do love this narrative of Hughes as Machevelli.
Regardless of his spending the players bought in are starting to perform bar those with injuries. It’s been some of the more expierenced guys who have let down Slot.
I don’t think Henry or Edwards are that clueless to have not noticed that.
Guehi has been an issue but evidently the club aren’t spending this period and that’s come from higher up than Hughes. Also all three will know what really went down.
There will almost always be, unless you are Utd. someone in mind, conversations taking place getting feelers. The successor to Klopp was speculated to be at one point Alonso, then Amorim and finally Slot, but we don’t know if that’s the order of priority. It maybe that the other ones made the media aware first. Wasn’t Amorim rumoured to have been interview for the Wolves role after being heavily linked with us?
I disagree (maybe contradicting myself) regarding us sounding out potential mid season replacements for this season on the basis Slot had just won the league and the amount of money we invested in January - it maybe why Slot is still in charge.
I am almost certain that the Club have made their decision, Slot is aware of this and both parties are being professional for their own reputation. There maybe a bit of undermining from the board via the media to save face but in the Summer both parties will declare an amicable separation.
Liverpool remain a massive project for any manager, to be approached is a privilege, the board can state they back their managers.
Slot walks away a PL Title winning manager, goes down in Liverpool history and now sits at the upper table of Managers the top clubs will look at.
I just hope we part ways, on an open top bus parade. Slot on the Decks, spinning Vinyl and Big Ears number 7 
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It is not a narrative, it’s looking at things from a different perspective, being open to the fact that this seasons under performance is not pinned on one man.
Hughes/Edwards hired Slot, Slot won the league, Everyone’s a winner. Hughes/Edwards (and for balance Slot) go big in the Summer Transfer window, it doesn’t go as planned Hughes/Edwards wash their hands and say not my fault Gov. Slot gets sacked.
I agree and especially in Edwards case, he has proven success, so definitely not clueless - although I will contradict myself later.
If you and I agree that they are not clueless, and would have observed the upturn in performances by our new signings (albeit at a slower and in a less effective manner than us the fans expected), the drop off by our experienced guys, Title winners - some of them double - and CL winners, why can’t a large proportion of the Fan base see that?
IMO Guehi is all on Hughes/Edwards. Whether it was out of their control and played out how it did because that was how it was, we will never know.
The issue I have is that there was not a second option. I understand when we held out for VVD, his stock was that high and we also had other CB’s who could do a job.
To start a season with only two CB’s, proven to have completed 30+ games over the last 3 seasons (one 30+ the other out of contract) a young untested, new to the league and Culture Italian, a Joe ‘made out of glass’ Gomez and a loveable, gives it all short arsed Endo who was brought as a final thought DM is nothing more than stupidity of the highest order. Why spend money on a Gold/Crystal Johnny big balls show of intent project, and undermine it by going all shy on the foundations. What makes it worse is that Edwards made the same mistake when Klopp won the Title - that is clueless.
It is when you start pretending he’s going to to the media and so on without so much as any knowledge about the bloke. The club from Henry down know what happened and what people are like and Henry and Edwards won’t take too kind to stuff like that especially Henry who has often appeared to be risk adverse to negative media.
As for the signings those who have stayed fit are starting to look the real deal. Guehi is a black mark but the club will know that. The blame has to be laid at the seasoned pros who have stank and the set up of the manager.
The club isn’t in bad shape, it’s just in a bad period.
I don’t believe that the club would withhold money because they are thinking of sacking Slot.
The whole point of the structure put in place when Klopp departed is that everything isn’t reset when we replace a Head Coach. The strategy should continue.
well said!!!
Can’t imagine Xabi Alonso would want to come in until the summer.
Imagine taking over the job in Feb/March and failing to get us into the CL. Would be pressure from the start.
I don’t think they are I’m just saying all of them will know what the deal is.
I am not pretending, I am just speculating. It is how it usually plays out. I could throw it back at you and say it’s when you’re pretending it is nothing to do with him. No one knows
Think that’s all true but it really depends on what Xabi wants as a coach: he won’t get any kudos at either PSG or Bayern unless he wins the CL and longevity is unlikely with either. On the other hand, he could build and retain a team with us and stay in the job for as long as he wants, provided he consistently competes for and wins some PL and CL trophies. He surely thinks he’s good enough; possibly comes down to whether he wants to return to living in the UK.
As pertains to the strategic leadership delivered by Hughes and Edwards, I agree - but that doesn’t mean there aren’t some questions to be answered about their part in the clubs underperformance.
This isn’t a ‘Hughes out’ thing, and it’s not about picking your side. I’m not keen on anyone losing their job. But review and improvement should be part of the strategy at Liverpool, and I’m not happy to see Slot get canned for issues created above him, because if they aren’t addressed at the level above him then they are likely to be repeated.
You are right to say we don’t know what is going on, but that is because Hughes never, ever, puts his head above the parapet. He doesn’t give interviews. He is never held to any public account. This while his subordinate is compelled to front the club and face the media four or five times a week, answering questions that really should be addressed to his boss.
Does Hughes believe that he has delivered an A+ summer and Slot has fucked it up? Or does he think that he could have done better for the club.
I would like to know how we ended up with two viable centre backs, a situation that has cost us points given one couldn’t be dropped when not performing, and may yet get worse given Konates injury history.
I’d like to know why it was decided that the only alternative on the left would be a kid who Slot clearly thinks isn’t ready. And the only alternative to an aging right winger who we knew would be disappearing for six weeks would be a player Slot doesn’t want to play.
Why was it decided to take up two non homegrown squad spots with players Slot doesn’t use?
Was it sensible in retrospect to get embroiled in an increasingly acrimonious transfer saga for a player we would need to spend a further six months getting fit? Was it sensible to allow Palce to string us along until deadline day for Guehi? Should we have pushed for a sale of Elliott rather than do Villa a favour they would go on to throw back in our faces and leaving us with a player worth a fraction of what he was worth last summer?