Artificial Intelligence

Of course, the Trump administration has already reacted and stated that they are totally against any form of regulation… :dotted_line_face:

My gross margins are 100% before accounting for any of the money I have to spend on anything to do anything.

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Wanted to write this earlier but scrapped it as I cannot say I know too much about the subject area. Basically are the concerns being voiced by insiders and leaders linked to their next job and protecting their baby, respectively.

And AI will execute it/us using those fricking lawn mowers and pool cleaning robots that certain posters are training at their homes. Cheers lads.

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Honestly it’s really difficult to know as most of these people are such hustlers in the worst sense.

There has long been a sense that these company leaders were consciously over egging the risks (not the theoretical risk, but the practical risk from their models) as a way to boost interest on the path to an IPO and a huge personal exit for themselves.

Recently there has been a good amount of talk about the frontier advancement slowing down (I think somewhat argued against by the quality of the frontier models released in that time) and so again, there’s kind a street illusionists trick to say “ignore the failure to improve performance, look over here at how close we are to ending humanity” as a way to continue convince people to throw their money at it.

The argument is related to the seeming Ceasefire all the frontier labs seem to be indicating they are willing to consider until some better safety framework is in put in place…because what better way to mask your lack of advancement prior to an IPO than a mutually agreed upon slowdown?

But then there is the reality that this has long been known as a very real possible outcome and we have ample evidence that these frontier lab companies dont have anything like the safeguards in place to prevent a genuine escape. People keep using stories like the hugging face one as a “wow, it seems so dangerous what things could do if they continue to improve” without realizing that this was actually a mutli-felony case already. The dangers are here now, even if we’re not “paper clip problem” level yet
https://medium.com/@jeffreydutton/the-ai-paperclip-problem-explained-233e7e57e4e3

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I actually took that as an appeal to the arms industry. If your product fucks up and injures someone, that’s an expensive lawsuit. However, in the arms industry, that’s the raison d’etre.

The Ceasefire proposal seems a show of false concern and more a strategic and conspired move to protect their investment.

Bring the regulators in, get them to form an oversight structure between the company (/tech) and the governments. This allows governments to get a feel for the tech and what it can offer, rubber stamps their legitimacy and all the while allowing deeper socialising of the assets, and the asset owner, to the seats of power.

Once the elevatable contracts start to flow, from industry and governments, guess who will cash in.

edit. too cynical may be and the paperclips may disagree…

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Yeah, especially, these tricky lawn mowers need to be kept in check. :joy:

More seriously, this wikipedia article is quite informative on the potential risks at hand:

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Lol, look at this today from the Russian 20th Combined Arms Army (it and the 25th Combined Arms Army, is in difficulty in the Lyman sector, and have had to retreat in an unorganised manner)
https://x.com/moklasen/status/2100349663077384668




:face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth: :upside_down_face: :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

I mean, this is lazy stuff.

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The report’s key findings include:

  • AI’s infrastructure build-out carries a staggering price tag: Industry insiders project an expenditure of $7 trillion from 2025 to 2030 just to begin the build-out of the necessary infrastructure to power AI. $7 trillion is roughly the cost of ending world hunger for the next 75 years being spent in five. Or, the sum of money could instead fund a $10,000 higher-education trust for every child born on Earth (700 million children) during those 5 years.

  • Most of AI’s data-center infrastructure is absent from previous estimates: Servers, accelerators and racks account for an estimated 13% of a data center’s electro-mechanical infrastructure by mass. BAN’s model incorporates the remaining 87%, including networking, power distribution, storage and backup, and cooling systems.

  • Annual AI-driven equipment retirement could rise sharply: BAN projects that 8.6 to 13.1 million tonnes of electronic equipment could be retired annually by 2030—approximately 40 to 60 times the most widely cited academic projection. By 2050, the annual amount could reach 31 to 46 million tonnes.

  • The cumulative physical footprint could be immense: Between 2025 and 2050, BAN projects that 395 to 617 million tonnes of AI-driven electronic equipment could be retired. That volume would fill approximately 15 to 23 million 40-foot shipping containers - enough to circle the Earth about six times if placed end to end.

  • AI’s waste footprint extends beyond data centers: BAN estimates that the AI Waste Contagion could add 16.2 to 30.7 million tonnes of retired equipment annually by 2050. Under both scenarios, this downstream retirement eventually exceeds the 15.5 million tonnes per year projected from inside data centers.

  • AI could substantially increase the global e-waste burden: When added to the conventional e-waste trajectory, total global generation of electronic waste could reach 196 to 211 million tonnes per year - 19% to 28% above BAN’s extrapolation of the UN baseline and more than triple today’s annual total.

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I just wonder how much of that waste would be perfectly serviceable kit. If AI is constantly pushing up the cost of IT equipment, there is probably a decent market for people who just need to run standard data processing.

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Addams Family much? AI robot hand crawl around.

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Interesting idea from Zeynep here

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/22/opinion/artificial-intelligence-ai-danger.html?unlocked_article_code=1.DFE.uVy5.cOYvLLvpNVei&smid=nytcore-ios-share

I think everyone understands this in the context of education…a student coming up with the right answer is not the same as the student having struggled through the process of working towards the right answer. You can actually similar arguments about some of these scientific and mathematic breakthroughs AI is being celebrated for right now.

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If you only get the right answer one in 720 occasions, you just have a broken clock.

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so its been admitted the Medicare database leak was from an ‘escaped AI’, adding to the disgrace is the time it took for the guilty company to put their hand up.

this is the national medical data base, hacked by a rogue AI.

at what point do we just ban this fucking shite?

data centres everywhere down in VIC now, this is it…this is THE dystopian future… we have arrived.

OpenAI hacked Medicare portal, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese says - ABC News

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The genie is out of the bottle, we’re fucked :face_savoring_food:

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has anyone heard the noise these data centres make?..currently permits have been approved to build these things within 60 metres…60 fucking metres…of residential properties…there are now ammendments in place for a 150 metre buffer going forward…

i reckon they should put one 150 metres from parliment, Uluru and the Sydney Opera house… whats good for the goose…

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doesnt have to be…

Fully agree, but let’s call a spade a shovel, all the big tech companies are heavily invested, it’s going nowhere.