Cars, Driving And All Things Automotive

that’s not really it at all. there’s a market here for certain vehicles and taking a $3000 car and breaking it up into 20 parts at $200-400 is an enterprise that’s been held by scrapyards for ages.

With the boomers dying off, there’s not a lot of backyard mechanics who are able and willing to work on cars anymore. some of the pick-a-part yards have already shut down, now guys are buying up certain models of cars (mostly JDM imports) and creating a revenue stream from it.

What bothers me is the destruction of good frames and VIN-legal cars for profit. Like I said, I’d love to get my hands on a few different cars which are quite fun to drive with a few basic mods… But that market of cars is very expensive here

https://abbotsford.craigslist.org/ctd/d/surrey-upper-west-2003-acura-rsx-3dr/7692312665.html

20yr old car, $15k. insanity.

That’s kind of what I’m saying with the issue being exasperated by modern day cars becoming both uneconomical to fix and being honest lacking whatever it is that makes a classic a classic.

Old school mechanics are falling by the wayside as cars become computer driven lumps of plastic engineered not to last.

The price if the car you quoted is not unique, there’s a decent list of what are now classic vehicles. Take this one for example
Record racer! Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500 sells for nearly £600,000 | Hagerty UK.

1 Like

Well, since that is being 25 years old and remembered through a prism of nostalgia, that’s not unreasonable.

The home repairability is a good measure, though.

True but they had a following from the off. They were highly desirable, stolen in droves, and kids has posters on walls. Same with others like the golf GTi, escort Mexico, and so on.

In 15 years will people remember focus ST? I can’t see it myself. Cars have become like washing machines.

2 Likes

ULEZ - How the fuck is it determined?
Looking at older cars right now, and drawn up a shortlist of 4.
One 4l petrol and 3 x 3l diesels.
One of the 3l diesels isn’t exempt ulez charges but the other 2 and the 4l petrol are.
All cars are the same age.
Confused.

1 Like

I believe it is different depending on the engine type. Petrol engine cars have to be at least Euro IV compliant whereas diesels must be Euro VI.

For petrol cars that will be everything registered after 2006 and diesel after 2016. With the diesel it will almost certainly comply if it requires Adblue.

This is a fucking minefield :rage:

Its pretty straight forward really…drive anything fun or exciting and it costs you. ULEZ is shit.

Need/want a vehicle with big enough boot space for golf clubs & trolley, and enough room for some food shopping.
Looked at various SUV’s around the £12k mark.
Literally 100% of the diesels are not ULEZ compliant, but a fucking 5 litre 510 bhp petrol gas guzzling Range Rover is :crazy_face:

Keh? That’s nuts but I bet the devil is in the detail somewhere.

In my recent search I ruled out SUV’s. A lot of them have really shit boot space for the size of the vehicle and I just didn’t like the look of them for some reason. Hugely popular.

My hand got forced a bit in the end and I ended up with a Volvo V60. Again a bigger boot would have been nice but what it has works and honestly the car does everything I need it to. Tax is £35 a year, economy seems great so far, dog fits in the back, and I’ve found a great little garage (not main stealer) that can keep up the service history etc. on it.

I lasted 20 minutes in it on the way home before being stopped by an unmarked police car. Their database wasn’t up to date with insurance. :rage:. All good though bar watching lots of people I knew passing me talking to him on the roadside. Thankfully it also has the speed limit assist on it. That probably saved me a fine too.

There doesn’t seem to be consistent logic to it.
I’ve searched dozens of Range Rovers, Vogues and Sports, predominently 2011-2013 age group.
99% show non compliant, so why do the 1% comply?
Same engine etc

I’m guessing a bit but there was a step change in 2017 I think it was, where anything produced after that date came under more scrutiny. The change in car tax changed at that point.

Probably because they are petrol not diesel. It’s based on toxic emissions, not CO2. It’s a public health measure, not a climate one.

Nope.
Almost identical vehicles.


They have different engines TDV6 vs SDV6. The later one will be Euro VI compliant. Does one have an Adblue tank? That’s normally a giveaway.

that’s likely what the guy drives, who wrote the law. so it is allowed.

After many hours checking ULEZ requirements, I’ve narrowed it down to a 2015 petrol Audi Q5 or a 2011 diesel Range Rover Vogue.

Going to pick up a new Honda CRV at the dealer this afternoon. I got AWD, the hybrid one with leather, wireless phone charger, etc. Getting 40mpg will give a good saving over time, compared to the petrol version. (Diesel is barely a thing over here).

I’ve been staving it off for as long as possible, but we needed to add an extra vehicle to the family as someone sharing is getting trickier as the kids are older and need to do their stuff too. Public transport isn’t a thing, and everything is spread out more than back in the UK, so the need for another vehicle has found us.

Even though I will get a new car, I’m the least excited in the family. I’m naturally more of a saver than a spender. Our Daughter will get a 2022 Honda Civic Sport from her mum so she is made up; son will get 2012 Honda Element from his sister so he is happy to have wheels; and Mrs ROTW will get my 2018 Honda CRV as she wants a bit more space than her Honda Civic for the dogs. She could have had the new car today, as I’m not bothered, but didn’t want to.

I tried to do as much as possible remotely ahead of time, as whenever I buy a car at the dealer I always seem to be there for longer than I think is necessary. Here we go…

2 Likes

Done deal.
Good choice, super practical and comfy

1 Like

Yo @Flobs you still looking to impress the women - this might be the answer to your dreams :0)

image

1: Citroën Ami©What Car?

What Car? rating 2/5 Cheapest model Ami P11D price £7,640 Monthly BIK tax at 20% £2.60 Monthly BIK tax at 40% £5.20

This must be one of the quirkiest cars we’ve seen in the past few years. It’s a tiny two-seater with an 8bhp motor that can get you to just 28mph and an official range of 46 miles. It’s not very practical, but could suit you if you want a cheap electric car for short trips. There’s also a left-hand-drive-only Citroën Ami Cargo version aimed at the (very) small van market.

image

Citroen Ami Pop – characterful electric minimalism

Story by Martin Gurdon

If you work in London but live in the sticks, a tiny electric two-seater could have a certain appeal as something to get you to and from the station, or for other local trips.

On paper at least, Citroen’s ugly-but-endearing looking Ami baby car ought to fit the bill. It costs nothing to tax, can be recharged from a domestic socket in three hours and can be funded using a finance deal that will cost you a fiver a week.

Basic stuff

The car’s pregnant Dalek shape is fun and dictated by function.

A lot of its matt-finished plastic panels, including those at the front and rear and the doors, are interchangeable, presumably to keep build costs down. One eccentricity of those doors is that the driver’s one opens like a taxi’s rear doors. It’s rear hinged and the passenger one is conventionally hinged at the front. Neither has any kind of door ‘checks’ so can end up flapping about when you’re trying to get into or out of the car.

You can forget about anti-lock brakes, air bags and side impact bars; the Ami is classed as a quadracycle (and in its native France can be driven by 14-year-olds) so legally can do without them, saving space and cost, if not its occupants if something hits it.

The theme continues with the door glass, which can’t be wound down, but has a 2CV-like split hinge so that it can be opened like a greenhouse vent.

image

Amazing glazing

Potential for hothouse comparisons continue with the Ami’s sealed glass sunroof which doesn’t have a blind to prevent a hot head on sunny days. There is a single speed heat/vent fan, which makes a racket, while air conditioning exists in your dreams only.

Seeing what’s behind involves looking at a pair of tiny, round, manually adjusted door mirrors, as there isn’t an interior one -presumably because the windscreen is such a long way from the driver, who sits on the left, which isn’t really a problem in such a minute vehicle.

The plastic, high backed seats, with flat, vinyl covered cushions, are actually more comfortable than they look. The passenger chair is fixed, the driver’s side one can be shifted backwards and forwards. Luggage space? That will be the passenger footwell. There isn’t a boot, although there are a pair of decently sized door storage areas, made from stringy webbing.

image

Simple controls

The Ami is controlled by three buttons (drive, neutral and reverse) and a brake an accelerator pedal. Acceleration is relaxed and when it picks up, the Ami’s 8 horsepower motor sounds like a domestic washing machine on spin cycle. The non-power steering has a go-kart like immediacy and a taxi-beating turning circle that would make city driving fun. The ride is unyielding, which is hardly a surprise for something so short and light (about 500kg), so navigating pot hole-riddled Kentish rural byroads involved a lot of crashing and banging.

The Ami’s between charging range is a claimed 46.6miles, but in real world conditions I suspect you could deduct five miles plus from that figure. Charging involves unfurling a cable in a recess in the rear wing that’s hidden by the passenger door. If you’re using a wall mounted charging unit a built-in adaptor is supplied which has a couple of switches to lock it in place and start the charging process. It takes around three hours, whatever the charging medium, so is just as quick when plugged into a domestic three pin socket as for a public charger.

I have a tethered home charger, that has its own cable. For reasons of electrical safety, having cables joined together in this way isn’t a good idea, so it wouldn’t replenish the Ami, which was a bit annoying. This also meant the charge dropped to four miles on my final journey and the Ami instigated power conserving measures, which meant the gentle hill into our village was traversed at a stately 8mph, much to the amusement of at least one neighbour.

Despite everything, I rather liked the Ami. It’s characterful and its minimalism is refreshing, but unless you are city-based and do a lot of blatting about in 20mph zones, its appeal is likely to be limited.

The Facts

Citroen Ami Pop

0-62mph: N/A

Top speed: 28mph

Range: 46.6miles

CO2 emissions: 0g/km

Price: £8,495

1 Like