Climate Catastrophe

Without being aware of all the details, at face value while agreeing to take displaced people from Tuvalu doesn’t solve the climate crisis, it does help with the harsh outcomes for some vulnerable people. As such, it seems like a humane thing to do.

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We are on track for the warmest year in 125,000 years.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-03523-3

While NZ is more progressive I have been hitting my head against a wall from recent government reports. Incompetence of the highest order. NZ has a climate similar to UK and some of the recommendations for a future bioeconomy was growing pineapples, growing bananas and farming I shit you not badgers.

Surely North Island is warmer than the UK isn’t it? That’s what my Kiwi mates tell me.

It’s pretty mild climate. With no major highs or lows.

It’s like if the UK had been flipped upside down. South Island is very similar to Scotland (Flying in to Dunedin it’s cold, and the landscape looks similar)

Top of South Island is loverly. Protected by mountains from wind and rain. You are getting average highs of 22c in summer and highs of 12c in winter. (Average lows 2c). But blue skies and a long summer.

Wellington (bottom of North Island) gets hammered with wind. Whilst temperature are roughly the same as Nelson, the wind chill makes it feel much colder. Also you get a lot of rain.

Average high in Auckland (top of north island) is 24c in the summer, with high in winter being 14c. Average low is 7C. It gets humid in summer so feels warmer.

Generally overall more sunny days, than the UK. Typically in north island you get frosty mornings rather than snow. You might get a couple of weeks were might get into low 30s in the peak of summer.

One big difference is there is a big hole in the ozone down here. Because of that NZ has some of the worst skin cancer in the world (and the fastest growing trees). The plus side is even though it’s temperate, when the suns out it feels warmer, than it would in UK at the same temperature.

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Delhi air readings are stunningly bad today, some stations as high as 520. Virtually all of them were over 480 for most of the day. Visibility has to be incredibly poor.

I don’t live in Delhi/India. I live in Dhaka, Bangladesh :bangladesh:. We have serious pollution too. But it doesn’t create visibility issues, probably we are a flatland and the smoke/dust gets blown away. The mercury and other lethal material level is high though.

No, I knew you were in Dhaka, but you had linked the original story.

Air pollution always reduces visibility, at first by shifting the spectrum of light but eventually attenuating the entire spectrum. But even up around 300 visibility will be 1.5-2 km. Dhaka being in flat terrain means the 15km distance in the 0-50 range is not that relevant. Looks like it is bad now (AQI of 182) but visibility would 3.5-4.5 km, not quite to the flatland horizon but close.

By comparison, Delhi is 900 meters now, must have been well under that earlier.

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FFS! :rofl:

It should be every government‘s primary duty to ensure clean air and water for its citizens. Surely that is a bare minimum.

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I grew up in a place where it was -40C for 2-4 weeks of the year.

So global warming ain’t all bad you know.

Just consider how bad it would be for people where it’s 40C for 4-5 weeks of the year.

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… and obviously no education!

It’s one of the most educated places on earth. The socialist governments made sure of that.

Touché

So why the glib stupid comments?

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I miss the real winters of my childhood, or even 25 years ago. At the lake we used to be able to set crosscountry trails in December, and using them every weekend or so would keep them usable to March. Now, we seldom have consistent snow cover before late December, and will reliably get multiple freeze-thaw cycles all through the winter.

Russia?

I would guess 1 of the Scandinavian countries. They always seem to rank highly when it comes to education

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