Climate Catastrophe

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Careful now, you donā€™t want to be posting factsā€¦

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Yes Iā€™m aware its a spoof.
I just found it humourous

Why not put it on the jokes thread then?

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Youā€™re right, apologies.
Donā€™t want threads with off topic content

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I donā€™t think the truth is to far from this tbh. I was offered a job last year by a military contractor to calculate the carbon footprint of a battleship.

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Isnā€™t the logic there that theyā€™re going to build the battleships anyway so might as well reduce the carbon footprint therein?

Yea defensive is a huge industry and should absolutely be looking to reduce its footprint.

I know. Itā€™s easy. People cause climate change. Battleship kills people. Problem solved. Yes!

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I live a bit south of there. The eye of the storm went over my home. Weā€™ve lost 2 towns in NC. Chimney Rock by Lake Lure is washed away and entirely gone. Swannanoa is also destroyed, town to the right of Asheville. Asheville itself lost the arts area. Hendersonville got hit, Boone too. 24-31 inches of water fell in one day. 40 trillion gallons of water fell. Thousands of trees uprooted. Wind speeds upwards of 100mph hit my home. Rain didnā€™t hit us because it was going sideways. I was tracking the hurricane until my power went out. 485 miles wide. Moving at 35 mph. People Iā€™ve talked to in NC are predicting deaths rising to 10,000. Loads of people are missing. Currently in the high 200ā€™s. My power was out for 6 days. Talking to the community manager sheā€™s still not got power and itā€™ll be another week. Shops had no food 3 days afterwards.

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I happen to know Chimney Rock, I used to do a lot of whitewater and kept in touch with NC friends because I travelled down there once a year. One settled in Black Mountain, but had a place near Chimney Rock close to Lake Lure. I was stunned to see that photo you posted - for context for others here is the ā€˜beforeā€™

Absolutely gutted, I love Asheville and the region. Our utilities are stripping out their crews to send disaster recovery teams down to help out Duke Power, and apparently it is the worst most of these guys have ever seen. A couple of years ago we had a derecho storm in Eastern Ontario, and they are comparing the entire region to the worst hit areas.

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We had breakfast the day after labor day at Chimney Rock. All locals no tourists as the season ends after labor day. The owner was saying they were looking forwards to fall because itā€™s their busiest time. We loved the place we could walk the lake and bring in our dogs and eat.

Another bad thing. Theyā€™ve closed the Blue Ridge Parkway indefinitely.

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Thereā€™s also a link on the Chimney Rock wording in my post that shows a before and after Chimney Rock.

We were only there a few weeks ago. We stayed over by Marion and so had to drive through it to get to Lake Lure

I doubt it will make much difference to those who discount climate modelling, but the acceleration scenario we are seeing with Milton is an astonishing outlier versus historical data. Even the path it is travelling is weirdly unprecedented. Tampa could get absolutely hammered on Wednesday morning.

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Iā€™m trying to parse what you mean.

Is it an outlier thatā€™s far beyond all other outliers in historical data?

If so, are you implying that weā€™ve reached an inflection point in modelling where the parameters have changed, or that weā€™re now going to see increased uncertainty (and therefore more outliers like these)?

Milton has jumped from Category 2 to Category 5 faster than all but two hurricanes on record. The windspeed is already in the top 6, with the startling point being neither of the other two hurricanes reached that category, nor were as large in a geographic sense. It is once again raising the idea that the category system needs to be overhauled to add a Category 6 for >180 knots. All 6 of the hurricanes that would fall in that category are in the past decade.

But the point that has startled many is the parallel fact that there are a few well-defined pathways that hurricanes travel, building up power and eventually dissipating. Big storms follow those pathways, the tropical storms that move laterally tend to be smaller and dissipate earlier. Heleneā€™s track was not exceptional. Miltonā€™s has not been seen in 50 years, hence Tampa not having sustained a direct hit from a hurricane in over a century, yet for some reason it is yet another monster.

In terms of what that means for modelling, I donā€™t know if enough about it to know whether this is a ā€˜new parameters neededā€™ or wider variance situation.

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We were in France when Helene hit and so had to wait a week to see what damage weā€™d sustained. The house was fine, but there was a ton of debris clean up and the pool was a disaster. It has taken me until this morning to get all of that straight right in time to start hunkering down again for what looks like itā€™s going to be a more direct hit. Most projections show its not going to be THAT bad by the time it hits us, but the big concern is the clean up from Helene has not finished so all my neighborhood there is loose debris people have rounded up that the city hasnt had time to collect yet. Basically every house has a big ammunition bunked of projectiles ready to be picked up and thrown through windows, hit power lines, or most troubling blown into storm drains causing blockages

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