Climate Catastrophe

I think it will actually be more the other way - using the grid but having places that can use excess generation on an as-needs basis. This was the thinking behind smart meters in the first place.

I would imagine electric cars are a good use for that but we have a few projects locally that are using excess capacity for hydrogen production. One is a BP plant (which has something to do with Porsche) and the other is RWE.

The hydrogen is more for industrial use rather than energy. Still early days, but I can see that will fill a gap. The main thing is that it keeps wind and solar in constant use.

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https://x.com/volcaholic1/status/1854290217420898311

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One report I heard said this was one year’s worth of rain in 9 hours. My brain cannot process that

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Nuts. As usual the conspiracy theorists have jumped in and quoted 1957 as an example that this wasn’t some kind of anomaly.

The rain then occurred over 2-3 weeks. This time it happened in a matter of hours.

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Read something about Spain demolishing/removing dams due to unprofitable hydro electric generation.

I think that needs a whole load of extra info.

Why?

Plenty of articles out there highlighting and dismissing dam removal as being a contributory factor to the flooding.
Either way it’s such a heartbreaking situation.

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Came across this

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Read somewhere that it could have been much worse if it wasn’t for a Roman damn that still works after all this time and stood the test of time and whatever the weather has thrown at it…

Other than that what have the Romans ever done for us ?

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I saw this article regarding disinformation about the flooding.

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This is one of the biggest problems with the modern world: social media allows disinformation (and misinformation) to spread unchecked and at unprecedented speeds; gullible idiots believe the first thing they see and - voila! - lies become the truth.

Short of closing down all forms of social media, which ain’t gonna happen, this is the world in which we now live.

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As I said, there are articles claiming and dismissing dam removal having any contribution to the flooding.

Agree about social media influence, but in too many cases, the real truth often lies somewhere in the middle.

Sadly, too many people dont want to be in the middle, they want to stick to their chosen extreme.

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Indeed, the truth often lies somewhere in between the two presented extremes.

However, there is a world of difference between an entrenched view based upon established facts and one based entirely upon nebulous hearsay.

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In this case I disagree.

Did dam removal impact the flooding?
No.

So theres no middle ground is there?

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Ok.

Seriously?

I honestly dont have an opinion on this other than the flooding is the result of an extreme weather event made more frequent and likely by climate change.

Crack on if you want to challenge that.

Parts of that area saw 500mm of rain in 8 hours. That is nuts and i’m trying to find what level of storm event it would equate to. Its beyond a 1 in 100 year event imo.

Troling with 210 dead is a bit poor.

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Look, facts mean nothing. All fact is just your opinion.

Not trolling, just pointing out other sources which may have had a contributing factor to make it worse.
They’re not necessarily my opinion, i just pointed out they were out there.
So you and the prick below you get back in your judgemental box

If I put out something out there that says the earth is flat, does that mean that the truth lies between the extremes of a round earth and a flat earth?

The point is, you have been supplied a link by @RedWhippet that as far as I can tell, debunks that false narrative, and yet you want to keep claiming it’s a valid opinion?

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Even if the watershed would have behaved differently with several impoundment barriers, the fundamental facts are:

i) the hydrology of the area had shifted such that available rainfall was inadequate to allow hydroelectric generation to be economically viable

ii) a normal year of rainfall occurred in less than a day. That is so far off a normal Flow Duration Curve as to make what it would have looked like with impoundment close to irrelevant.

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