In this case I disagree.
Did dam removal impact the flooding?
No.
So theres no middle ground is there?
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Ok.
Seriously?
I honestly dont have an opinion on this other than the flooding is the result of an extreme weather event made more frequent and likely by climate change.
Crack on if you want to challenge that.
Parts of that area saw 500mm of rain in 8 hours. That is nuts and iām trying to find what level of storm event it would equate to. Its beyond a 1 in 100 year event imo.
Troling with 210 dead is a bit poor.
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Look, facts mean nothing. All fact is just your opinion.
Not trolling, just pointing out other sources which may have had a contributing factor to make it worse.
Theyāre not necessarily my opinion, i just pointed out they were out there.
So you and the prick below you get back in your judgemental box
If I put out something out there that says the earth is flat, does that mean that the truth lies between the extremes of a round earth and a flat earth?
The point is, you have been supplied a link by @RedWhippet that as far as I can tell, debunks that false narrative, and yet you want to keep claiming itās a valid opinion?
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Even if the watershed would have behaved differently with several impoundment barriers, the fundamental facts are:
i) the hydrology of the area had shifted such that available rainfall was inadequate to allow hydroelectric generation to be economically viable
ii) a normal year of rainfall occurred in less than a day. That is so far off a normal Flow Duration Curve as to make what it would have looked like with impoundment close to irrelevant.
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Gees you started this by claiming dam removal made it worse.
Thats not true is it? Dam removal has not made it worse.
However, are there other factors on top of the extreme rainfall that made it the catastrophe it is?
Yes, the Rambla del Poyo gorge.
Itās sad that people knew of the risk it posed in an extreme weather event and plans were being developed, but obviously all too late.
This is factual stuff, not opinion. Itās engineer stuff.
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If weāre just philosophizing rather than dealing with the actual matter at hand, I would counter that it is a problem that such a large group of people are so quick to calibrate themselves to the middle point of any discussion with no attempt made to evaluate the merits of the argument. Ignoring my personal distaste with the smugness so many people have in doing this, thinking that is morally superior to people who actually know stuff and use that to position themselves closer to one of the respective arguments, this reflex is something the enables bad faith actors to pervert discussions with terrible arguments designed only to move the middle of the debate.
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Happy for you to point out where I claimed anything.
I commented that there were articles claiming and dismissing it.
You, as usual, jumped in with both feet, making assumptions.
There you go. You then said that both are possible. All Iāve done is disagreed with your claim on some mysterious middle ground. They either did or didnāt contribute. They didnt.
So its not jumping in and making assumptions. Itās correcting your BS.
Stop making shit up.
That in no way is me claiming dam removal made the floods worse.
Ive edited the comment. Read it again.
Edit all you want, Iāve āclaimedā nothing.
Fuck me, youāve claimed thereās middle ground on something when there isnt. You also claimed that I have jumped to one extreme because it fits some strange opinion i have formed in a pretty underhand comment.
Thats a lot of claims for someone not claiming anything. Do you work in insurance?
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you mean this?
Thatās an observation, not me claiming dam removal contributed to flooding.
Fuck me, if this carries on any longer youāll be blaming me for the fucking floods.
Iām done responding to you, bore off
Look what Trump has done to us, the fat orange cunt.
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Dont include me in this. I was this arsey long before he came on the scene.
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And the less said about @cynicaloldgit the better.
So its a general observation now, not actually on the topic being discussed. Righto.
Otherwise, stop being daft and angry man on internet.