There is. Bill Gates, the microchip guy had an interesting view on this I feel.
Make the poor less poor and they have less children. Over time population falls. It doesn’t address the climate problem though, as we see that the more wealthy people get the more resources they use.
Yes I was suggesting such a technoir dystopia. Great night club tho, in Terminator.
Soo many things that were just thrown out their by the medical profession have been prooved false yet they are still taught it and spout it. and yes much came from the USA over the last 100 years but not exclusively.
The particularly damaging include protein grading, low salt diets (but of course that isn’t advocating high salt content diets either) and other nonsense. They can be excused to an extent as medicine is not a science however so much was/is completely unfounded.
The fact that they may be running mainly on gas turbine electricity in the UK doesn’t make it universal. Where I live, that is certainly not true. We have 58% nuclear, 24% hydroelectric, 8% wind, 6% natural gas, 2% PV, and the rest is a mix. Natural gas is used exclusively at peak, and charged peak rates. Absolutely no one who owns an electric vehicle will ever have their charger set to consume during those peaks given the difference from mid-peak and off-peak rates. While our grid is not particularly characteristic of other jurisdictions, there can be no question that they are not running on gas generation?
Does that make them ecological? Not necessarily - whole life emissions, plus emissions associated with maintaining infrastructure required for personal vehicle use en masse render it more complicated. But it is probably better not to reason from a position that the UK is the world.
Nor Canada!
Yes 1st thing you note when a ‘poor’ country becomes ‘richer’ is the augmentation of consumption of meat. Meat is a luxury that we in the west take for granted. and of course poor countries aspire to live like our rich countries. Even educating them wouldn’t fix that.
Well, one us made a universal claim, ‘the future is everywhere’, and one of us said ‘it depends where you are really’.
However, even for the UK, I suspect the current renewable penetration level is limited by the grid’s capacity to absorb intermittent wind, given that the UK is now somewhere around 20% wind.
Worldwide 60% of electric cars run on actual fossil fuels. On balance…we need more wind (puff or bluster?)
Whilst building laser smoke meters for the MOD I was feeding cows. I’ll admit that it was an odd job 
No worries.
Could not agree more. Read the sentence before the one you quoted. I am more of a proponent of PV than wind, because of other ecological reasons, but I have worked extensively in wind and agree we need more of it. Neither of the two major impediments to deployment now are generation cost. What is holding wind back are the two constraints of transmission capacity and intermittency. Energy storage addresses the second and may alleviate some of the first.
You keep steering this to the future rather than the now, you are strawmanning.
Lets talk tyres, micro-plastics and manufacturing pollutions?
For me fish is already far to expensive compared to the enjoyment I would get from eating it. I am British and the fish I like are now as much as a sirloin or even filet steak per kilo the choice when I can afford it is easy.
The thing is you don’t can steaks whilst fish comes in all sorts of nasty ‘sauces’ like brine, oil, viegar, ketchup, … I suppose with Brexit there will be even more of that (sorry wrong thread).
I am not steering it to the future at all. I am speaking about the here and now. Energy storage increases renewable penetration, and has been a key part of that increasing over the past decade. Displacing fossil fuel emissions in the transport sector has had a measurable effect on emissions in multiple jurisdictions - including some that have also implemented carbon fuel standards.
Tires are a disaster, a bigger disaster than we realized - 6PPD is a direct culprit in salmon death and the likelihood of it only affecting salmon is vanishingly small. Similar story for micro-plastics. I made the earlier point about whole life accounting. Hence my caveat that electric cars are no substitute for better public transport.
However, if I replace my car next year, I don’t really have ‘better public transport’ as an option. I can vote that way, and over time see more effect, but in terms of reducing my own emissions, an electric vehicle is probably now one of the most effective mechanisms available to me.
All true but there are massive benefits from dragging people out of poverty. That must be one priority, I feel.
I guess that’s why there’s no one solution to the problem
on yer bike mate 
You need to diversify into Mooseport.
perfect all weather transport. Just take your goggles
Yes improving peoples standard of living is a must imo. The problems are that the conditions will lead to more problems. We really need to work on how we live to do that we need to work on how we think. So much i realise i take for granted is just so bad for the environment and even my own health and others for that matter.
But hey I can’t afford my rent from next month so I’m going to have to take drastic steps and I’m living in a rich country. (I smoke however I’m in no way in a mental state to stop that would give me a little leeway yet some stupidity at 11 years old has led to an addiction that taxation crucifies me for, then people suggest putting great tax on food nonsense). Just makes me realise how difficult life could be in a ‘poor’ country.
Dang, I wonder where that is and why the moose is powering through that. The camera looks fairly close, and they are an animal not to be trifled with. I have been paddling a canoe through a marshy river and come around a bend to come closer than I would like - you don’t quite realize how damned big they are until you are sitting next to one a few meters away.
Again I agree but I do think by bring balance the playing field becomes a little more level and the solutions become more universal rather than one solution for one part of society and another for another section.
