People are also hypocrites. No surprise there. Shouting at the oil companies as they eat meat two or three times a day.
For environmental change and destruction going back centuries, nothing beats animal agriculture. England used to be covered with trees. No more. Why?
You need to be very dedicated to live a joined up climate protecting lifestyle. For most people, that wonât happen. But I do think picking and choosing different measures will make a difference. Turn down the heat or a/c. Insulate home well. Cut down on meat. Consider choice of vehicle. Think though travel, and how much. Etc.
On a personal note Iâm not consistent across the board and will indulge in various ways, at various times. But I do try to have some intentionality to reduce consumption.
With regard to the article, a vegetarian lifestyle is a lot more climate conscious, but for me I wonât do that based on preference. It might be selfish, but there you have it. I can and do move the dial somewhat, and we have cut down on meat. It is healthier and better for me, but as a flawed and complicated person, I still choose to do some things that are not optimal for my diet or the planet.
Itâs impossible to live a completely clean life. Just living means breathing and farting, for a start (unless youâre my ex, who apparently never farted).
What we can do as individuals, however, is minimise our negative behaviours. Donât fly. Donât drive. Donât eat meat. Donât use plastics. And all the other many things which we know are bad for the environment yet continue to do anyway.
If itâs impossible to give up something, such as driving if you live in a remote area, do it as little as possible.
By every single one of us doing our bit, change is possible. But ultimately itâs down to the biggest polluters (the richest individuals and biggest corporations) to change their ways the most.
Whether that will ever happen is doubtful.
As much as the original idea of the personal carbon footprint was invented for greenwashing purposes, I like to think of it as a great personal goal that doesnât stop one from focusing on the real issues. Weâre at the point where every little bit counts. I might, for example, take road trips, but as I donât own a car or fly a lot at all, I think thatâs the one little luxury I can allow myself.
Best thing you can do is have 2 kids or less. Not owning a car or flying (for environmental reasons) but having 5 kids is madness.
Yes.
So letâs stop eating meat.
Do we just stop killing the cows, sheep, pigs, deer and let then live naturally?
Or just kill them and wipe out the species so they stop breeding and farting?
Thereâs a whole new debate.
I wonder how many pigs / cows would exist in the UK if we didnât eat them? Just the ones in petting zoos. Good, PETA can target them next.
Thatâs my point.
Letâs say everyone stopped eating meat tomorrow.
What happens to the livestock still living?
Mass hysterectomies and let them see their lives out, or slaughter them anyway coz of well, you know, the methane
The thinking and analysis of a smashed walnut, WUM!
That doesnât happen without sanction does it? That basically means that you can taper stocks down over time but ultimately that comes from introducing legislation. I canât see people waking to the issue and then eating less meat overnight.
Shouldnât you be burning sheep?
Iâm thinking a big feast, the mother of all barbecues, and then go veggie.
for every ying, thereâs a yang.
Iâd encourage EVERYONE who thinks that cattle are the problem to watch this show.
itâs not the cattle themselves, but rather HOW the meat industry is going about their business.
If it werenât down to pure profits and the food industry de-centralized back to how farming was 100 years ago, weâd be in a much better position. Tyson Foods and Cargill with their massive cow pastures running on feed 24/7 instead of open-range grazing by cattle is the problem
example - watch this episode and youâll see
Why is that?
Sorry but I havenât a clue what your trying to say or insinuate however I am sure once I do I will find it funny.
Modern farming is unsustainable, all that is required is that the conditions are set for sustainable and reasonned farming. This includes either most of us following suite with reasonable diets or smaller numbers having extreme diets to support the unreasonable!
Common gag in the UK, French farmers spend all their time burning sheep after the protests in the 90s. Could be 80s, sorry, pissed playing poker 
Enjoy your game, Iâm sure you have drunk too much to win, still fun! 
I used to spend a few years importing frozen meat from Brazil. When I visited the farms, chicken, beef and pork ones in Brazil, I am quite impressed by the structure they have. And they do have very high industry standards for sustainbility like all water used in the farms are recycled for other purposesâŚlike what they said, the only thing they could not recycle are the oinks the pigs make day in day out. But of course to the new saviours of the world, the only way to save the world is to stop eating meat so that farming will not continue. I had someone talking in a small forum in Africa who told them do you know for one farm to rear cows, you could have 8 farms growing vegetables feeding more people. Someone answered, have you ever asked us Africans, what we want to eat? We want meat and we finally can afford it now and now you want us to eat vegetables? The farming standards in USA is however very dodgy. There might be good ones in USA but some of the stuff I see shipped out from USA to countries like Vietnam and Philippines are crazyâŚthere definitely have not been a standard these products abide to.
I just read this article a few days ago, before this whole debate erupted. Itâs quite interesting framing. Also makes me wonder how much of traditional African cuisine is meat-based, and how much is just colonial influence.
For what itâs worth, meat used to be a rare indulgence all over the world, traditionally. With factory farming howeverâŚ