Didn’t say or mean to imply you were mate. General point.
She very much could be, and for clarity, it was RHs shared post (not his or his view for clarity) that implied she was spouting to media, and i clearly said i hadnt googled further.
You decided that the report points to abandonment that i think is taking it as read and thought worth pointing out it could be a misrepresentation of him and i proceeded to point to quotes from both her and the journo saying hes a caring father.
Youve then posted the same quote i did…which shows that maybe Enzo has been portrayed wrongly originally…but implying im wrong.
What we can agree on is no one likes a deadbeat dad, but because there are lots of deadbeat dads around its not fair to assume he is too. When kids are involved and social media is full of nutters i think its important to tread carefully.
As for you implying i think Enzo is dad of the year…sure if thats what you want.
Enzo’s still a cunt too as i pointed out. Ill call it a day on this chat re his personal affairs here.
There are degrees of abandonment. It’s obviously not the worst, but he doesn’t come out of it looking good, at all. Married, two young kids, and now he decides he wants to live the single life?
Ugh.
It seems so selfish. As the kids grow I wonder how they will feel about their dad not sticking around because he made a choice to leave and pursue the single life?
I’m sure they won’t lack for material things, and I’m sure he will spoil them when he sees them on his day off, or whatever the arrangements are, but he comes out of it as a man sorely lacking in taking responsibility.
The racist stuff was horrible. He looks, arguably looked, a good player - but Chelsea do much better with him out of the team, although he won’t care as he has a very long contract on great money. He’s made it, and now he wants to enjoy himself, family be damned.
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I don’t know that he is married, so I slightly take that part back. But for all intents and purposes he should be treated as that, as they have been together for 6 years and had a family together.
He is a great case study in the importance of the “confidence” element of our data analysis.
At the time Chelsea bought him he been in Europe for only half a season and didn’t even have 20 Portuguese league games under his belt. For us to move on a big target like that we typically need a track record of 100 games at that sort of level, so we were at least a season and a half short of having seen enough from him to go from him being a player we were monitoring to one we would have felt comfortable enough in to pursue. Chelsea bought an entirely new midfield in that time.
im of the opinion is they need someone genuine they can trust, a rock.
someone to bounce off when you are down, someone to keep you grounded when you are up, someone not your parents who is a constant.
nowadays they are so totally focused on onfield improvement, id imagine theres a raft of more talented single footballers who have no base to keep grounded…im not suggesting its a career move to get married, but it must help them not to be distracted by the ‘finer things in life’
lets say theres two (similarily talented) south american footballers …one is thoroughly commited to his wife and family, sees playing as a career and wants to spend time with his family in the short periods of time off, the other just wants to fuck off to carnivale every year and smash around nightclubs after training…
i can see why at the very top level having a solid base would help you stay focussed…
in the case of Enzo, i find it strange on a very left leaning forum that a young man is being vilified for leaving his wife…maybe he just doesnt love her,
@Sweeting i understand your point, but whats really worse, a seperated couple, or a couple where the father is miserable and fucking about on the side whenever he can?
id say, if the seperation was amicable (after the initial hurt stage) then thats a hell of a lot less toxic than living in a house where the love is just a facade…
staying together ‘for the kids’ is such a 1950s ideaology
sorry, this Enzo guy seems like a cunt for many reasons, but seperating from the mother of his children isnt the cunts act everyones making it out to be…
I don’t care about him leaving his wife/grirlfriend, she’s a grown up and can handle herself.
I care about the report saying he needs to “experience the part he skipped by choosing a family early on”. The implication there is not that he only wants to move on from his wife but that his kids are also not exactly at the forefront of his mind.
I guess I’ll owe him an apology when he turns out to be doing everything he can to be a part of his kids lives but from the reports we see now that doesn’t appear to be the case.
Fast forward to 2025 and he’s living in Spain, dating a supermodel and his kids are back in Argentina.
And I don’t really care that his ex says nice things about him. Given the vitriolic reaction of online communities towards women for the slightest issue then I’d be staying as far away from controversial statements too.
i dont know where his kids are situated compared to him, but lets just say they do head back to Argentina…plenty of humans work abroad…
dunno…he might be a bit of a prick…but it feels like the pile on has more to do with the club he plays for, and his priors, than the very private (i understand the irony of it being released on SM) matter of a family splitting up.
just saying, when Mane married an 18 year old he had been courting for 5 years (i think)… most on here were adamant that we shouldnt jump to conclusions and judge without the full weight of facts…
Yeah that was disgusting. My conclusion was that Mane is fucking sick. Don’t give a shit about all the “respect their culture” stuff I’ve got no respect for people who are attracted to children.
I coach 14-18 year olds, I think people who are not around them forget how young these kids are. One of my 18 year olds still have braces for fucks sake.
But in regards to Enzo I will admit my bias in that I already don’t like him since he is a racist and even his teammates have said as much.
Someone choosing to have kids and then choosing to leave to pursue a single lifestyle, and sow his proverbial wild oats with all his riches, is not a good thing.
I don’t really understand what left and right politically has got to do with that. I lean left politically, but I don’t agree with what he is doing.
Obviously none of us knows the details, other than what we have read. Which is the above, about him leaving his family to enjoy the single lifestyle, plus what we already know about him being a racist and unlikable character.
I might be ‘left-leaning’ on some topics, but in this kind of cases, I’m as conservative as it gets. I’ll say it: it’s indecent to leave your young family in such a manner, and with such a horrible public explanation as well.
