I’m presuming a senator can be prosecuted for sedition and insurrection?
I had already said earlier that I didn’t think it was a coup after all, but there was a moment yesterday where I believed one was happening. It is possible that one was in progress, and something planned did not happen, but I see no evidence of that.
I don’t think it was a matter of incitement. Astonishingly, there is extensive discussion of exactly how to get to the Senate floor dating back to the week of December 20 - including the screwdriver example. There was at least some kind of cadre, albeit informal, that arrived with every intent of doing exactly what they did. Where I think you really do have some good questions is how that possibly could have happened with the level of surveillance and protection. FFS, Capitol Hill Police have a budget of $450 million to protect roughly nine blocks, yet most of Congress were led to safety by Secret Service men dispatched on an emergency basis from the Naval Observatory.
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State-level, so no federal immunity whatsoever. But Federal legislators don’t have immunity either, just some procedural barriers for some crimes.
He is a State Rep., not a State Senator, btw. Faces re-election in two years.
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I laughed.
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Is it inconceivable that there were agents provocateur mingled in with that crowd?
I mean for all his efforts, rather than be covered in glory, Trump is proverbially covered in shit today.
There is way more to this than meets the eye.
It backfired on him because he is an idiot.
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If that is right, Trump could have condemned their actions in the strongest possible way and not just told them that he loved them. Then he’d look a little less stupid tbf.
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The Capitol Hill Police are going to get torn apart. Secret Service led more Congress members out that than they did, despite arriving late (not their job normally). The DC police arrested 3x as many people as CH police. DC police have a large city to cover, with serious crimes, and a budget only 33% larger than CH Police (Capitol Hill police budget is about 1/8 of London Metropolitan). Details of what was planned are still readily available. Yet they could not stop some cosplayers.
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I am not sure any such agents actually needed to be there. Their work was already done.
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It’s not inconceivable but it’s also trying to prove the unprovable without facts. It’s not the first time he has come out looking foolish (euphemism) while only having himself to blame: redlining housing, bankruptcies, sticking children in cages, Charlottesville, gassing peaceful protestors, his hires, etc.
At some point, he needs to blame himself for his own cruelty and idiocy. I take his cruelty at face value and have stopped seeking any worth in his actions. Maybe that makes me closed-minded, but so be it at this point.
@Livvy’s point above sums it up well.
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This is my biggest fear.
Ever heard of March on Rome?
Who’s in charge of the CH police? Are they likely to be a Trump lackey?
I absolutely guarantee that had they been BLM, Climate Change Protesters or Gay Rights activists they would have been met by a legion of Moff Gideon’s Dark Troopers.
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*Lincoln Memorial.
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Their work has been in process for years, no way they are getting involved on the day. Trump, Giuliani (who literally told the crowd they need a “trial by combat” 2 hours before the raid), Fox News, Breitbart, InfoWars, Facebook, Twitter and plenty of other sources all have allowed, if not actively encouraged, the actions of yesterday.
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CH Police are responsible directly to Congress, as an agency. Chief is new, hired from Maryland in 2019, no idea who he is really. But no, Trump has no power of appointment there at all.
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So it is likely to be just plain ineptitude rather than something more sinister?
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That first tweet says it all.